I'm getting nowhere fast!

[lizdb]

for what it is worth, this could be William Boon's first marriage
By this time Charles and Alfred would have been born - so maybe it is his second!
but I cant see another one with a bride called Sophie or similar

MArriage
Oct/Nov/Dec 1859
Pancras
William Alexander Boon
one of brides - Sophee Emily Turnell

[ec]

Thanks everyone for all your thoughts - I definitely think there is something with the BOON connection - thansk 01DGobbo.  I just can't seem to tie them up properly though with a marriage to Sophee and then her death etc.  The 1871 and 1881 census for them do look like two lots of children from differnet marriages in the same family - cant seem to find them in 1891 with any confidence tho.
 

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I realise that this is an old thread but I'd done a bit of checking before I noted that.

As EC has already said she has checked the 1911 census and it says on there that she is a Widow. I also noticed that she did not sign the form but put her Mark - an X.
So she may have not known what was on the form.

No news there but looking at the Military Records on Ancestry I came across a Frederick VERRIER age 38 in 1914. His next of kin was his wife Elizabeth VERRIER of 50 Warren Street, Islington who he had married in London and her name was Elizabeth BRYANT; Spinster.
Children were Maude, George Frederick, Ellen.

So to describe Jane as a Widow in 1911 was an error or a lie.


Bryan

[ec]

Hello Bryan

Yes - you have got to the next installment of the mystery!...

I have puzzled for a while over that one, however there is no Frederick/George Verrier death record after 1911 except their son Frederick George in 1964.  He also had a child called Frederick George who dies 1918 age 1, and a later son also called Frederick George b. 1921

Its all very strange and every time I look at this I come up with new possibilities, but nothing definite. 

ec

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Hi ec

Yes this family are trying hard not to be found; even for those who could not write. 

Did you ever get the death certificate of the Frederick G VERRIER who died in 1910 and at first sight would have been the husband of Jane Elizabeth? Who was he?

I had a look at Warren Street (both) in 1911 thinking that since Frederick and his son Frederick George both gave that as the address of their next of kin when they joined up then maybe the family were there in 1911 but no sign of them.

I think from something you said earleir that the family stayed in Risinghill street until Jane Elizabth died in 1940. Odd then that we have Warren Street and then, when Frederick the father was discharged in 1916, he gives 36 Claridon St., Euston Road (which I've not located).  Maybe some Zepplin dropped a bomb on Risinghill Street.

Bryan

[Vixenday]

Hi all-
I have a tiny bit of information for you. My maternal grandfather was the Frederick George born in 1921. He died in 2014. His father was Frederick George and he married Annie Wood.

[Vixenday]

Hi- I’m trying to recall as many details as I can . My maternal grandfather was the Frederick George born in 1921. He didn’t like his name as he was named after a deceased brother. He had two sisters- May and Ellen ( Nell) and brothers William, John ( who was an Olympic swimming coach) and Alec the youngest one . My great grandad did indeed die in 1964- his wife was Anne Wood and her family came from Islington- her father was called Elvey Wood and her mother was Emma Day. I don’t know where they lived in London. In 1939 my grandad joined the RAF after he’d been working at Woolwich Arsenal since he was 14. I only met his mother in the 1980s when she lived at Dagenham. The only other bits I know, off the top of my head is that the Verrier family ( this branch) came from Somerset and one definite ancestor is a Cornelius Verrier who was imprisoned for debt in the early 1840s ( it stopped in 1844/5 I believe) . he was listed as a potato and egg dealer ( a costermonger) in Bind Street and Covent Garden . He was born in  1796 and married a Frederica Hiil ( b1797) His father was a John Verrier (b1757 ) and Cornelius died in 1868- July) I found that on aN ancestry website, but my mother also found these details on a census . He died in a workhouse of “liver” possibly drink?? According to the ancestry site - They had 5 kids- one  a George Frederick ( 1835-1910) then a Charles (1831-?) John 1852-1905 and Hannah (1834-?) and Samuel (1837). Seems like the GFV who died in 1910 was my great-great grandfather. I can’t recall his wife’s name, by can try to find out.

Sorry- Bond Street not Bind! If you Google his name it comes up with a fair bit, including court records!

[Vixenday]

Hi- I think I need to make a correction - all these George/Fredericks! I think that the GV who was on the 1871 census people have put on this thread as being 36 in 1871 is my great-great-great grandfather. He was the son of Cornelius
 ( b1796-1868) . I’m not sure when he died - possibly 1910 from what I read here? The FGV who was his son ( b1874) seems to have been in the services according to this thread and was still alive after 1916? My head’s spinning!

[Vixenday]

Hi- I think I need to make a correction - all these George/Fredericks! I think that the GV who was on the 1871 census people have put on this thread as being 36 in 1871 is my great-great-great grandfather. He was the son of Cornelius
 ( b1796-1868) . I’m not sure when he died - possibly 1910 from what I read here? The FGV who was his son ( b1874) seems to have been in the services according to this thread and was still alive after 1916? My head’s spinning!