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Offline ec

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I'm getting nowhere fast!
« on: Sunday 17 May 09 17:40 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have posted a bit about this lot many moons ago, but this week I received a birth cert that I thought would help move things on but I'm even more lost than ever.

Birth cert is Jane Elizabeth Bryant b. 1875 Pancras.  Father Henry Bryant, Timber Porter and mother Sarah Bryant formerly Ayres (thats what it looks like).

I have never been able to find Jane Elizabeth on any census in the past, but I didn;t know her mothers name, just her fathers.  the fathers name and occupation matches the marriage I have for her in 1895.  She married George Frederick Verrier.  (although I have recently spotted her on the 1911).

I cant find a marriage for Henry Bryant and Sarah Ayres and I cant find a definite trace of any of them any census - as for the daughter, Jane Elizabeth -she seems to disappear until she marries.

I wonder if anyone else would be willing to take a look.

This is my previous posting for information, just so there is no duplication of effort

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,35854.0.html

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Re: I'm getting nowhere fast!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 May 09 18:28 BST (UK) »
What is the exact address on her birth cert?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 May 09 18:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Lizdb

Its 23 Brighton Street, Pancras - place of birth and also address of informant, her mother

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 May 09 18:43 BST (UK) »
Could mums surname be Naish?
MArriage
Oc/Nov/dec 1869
Pancras
Henry Bryant - one of brides Sarah Naish

bit of a clutching at straws, i know

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 May 09 18:59 BST (UK) »
I went back to the 1871
 
Henry Bryant 55  shoemaker, bristol
Sarah Bryant 44  bristol
Henry Bryant 18  van guard, bristol
Lucy Bryant 12  all st pancras
Annie Bryant 10 
William Bryant 8 
Frederick Bryant 6 
Emily Bryant 3 

RG10; Piece: 204; Folio: 110; Page: 46;

 durr-no good-Jane isn't with them in 1881
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 May 09 19:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks for looking mc8 - its all a bit of a mystery!!

Lizdb - I did see that - the mother surname on the cert definitely doesn't look like Naish, but it did make me wonder if maybe she'd been married before etc.  Did try and find an Ayres/Naish marriage to be followed by the Naish/Bryant one, but I didn't get anywhere with that either!!

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 May 09 19:27 BST (UK) »
This might be a sighting of her in 1891 RG12 piece 20 folio 66 page 4

Jane  E Bryan servant Single 19 born St Pancras housemaid at 49 Bedford `Gardens Kensington Home of John Abraham born Jamaica tea Merchant

A little old but the rest fits. I can't check this as Findmypast won't let me see the image at the moment.

Barbara
Bucks- Young,Neale,Wright,Ludgate,Todd,Turney,Crouch,Roberts,Hoare
Oxon Whichello,Roberts,Slatter,Kimber
Kent-Fox,Medhurst,Pearson,Wimble,French,Tilby,Bassage
Herts-Pellant,Martin,Figg,Turney
London, Scotland, Ireland - McWatt
Suffolk-Fox,Sage,Scarfe,Palmer
Berks - Kimber,Dorman

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 May 09 19:29 BST (UK) »
sorry I meant BRANT

Barbara
Bucks- Young,Neale,Wright,Ludgate,Todd,Turney,Crouch,Roberts,Hoare
Oxon Whichello,Roberts,Slatter,Kimber
Kent-Fox,Medhurst,Pearson,Wimble,French,Tilby,Bassage
Herts-Pellant,Martin,Figg,Turney
London, Scotland, Ireland - McWatt
Suffolk-Fox,Sage,Scarfe,Palmer
Berks - Kimber,Dorman

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 May 09 19:31 BST (UK) »
I'm having a go at attaching a scan of the mothers maiden name - not done this before so I'm not sure how it works!!