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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #18 on: Monday 31 August 09 15:11 BST (UK) »
You really need to send for the full military file, as there is usually personal information on it, including a will...
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-130-e.html?PHPSESSID#h
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/084321a.gif

if you are all absolutely sure that the name and the date of birth matches that of your grandfather....you will need all the information that you can get to trace him back...and this would be worth the expense just to have information of an ancestor anyway
So they were still in the Sudbury district after the war as well...Do either of these family names Seeley/Dubroy show up in the 1916 census... ?
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #19 on: Monday 31 August 09 20:47 BST (UK) »
I checked the 1881 census for Minnie Scott and her parents names were Abel and Kate, they are in the Parry Sound Muskoka area which is 100 miles south of Sudbury.  Sudbury is Algoma and Nipissing is North Bay.  I haven't been able to locate any birth info on Joseph Seeley even using variants. I know that no one has mentioned it but could he have been illigitimate and adopted the name Seeley, his death record would have his birth name. I also checked the Ontario Cenetary Finding Aid and there is only one Dubroy in Nipissing.
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #20 on: Monday 31 August 09 21:56 BST (UK) »
yes I think we established that the only way that couple could have been the likely parents was if they adopted him post census....
Not that it's all that crucial at this stage...but OGSON states:
The Algoma/Nipissing boundary was in different places for each of the census years of 1891, 1901, 1911. Modern Sudbury district was formed as an Ontario provincial judicial and administrative district in 1909 by taking some townships from the Eastern edge of Algoma and some from the Western edge of Nipissing. These changes did not show federally until the 1921 census.
Nippising: 1901 / 1911 census Sudbury Town / Fournier Ward ...Sudbury Town / McCormick Ward...Sudbury Town / Ryan Ward
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/District.jsp?districtId=92
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test3.jsp?did=99
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #21 on: Monday 19 May 14 14:13 BST (UK) »
Hi all, I know this is a very old thread, but rather than start a new one I thought I would re-activate it. I am also a grandchild of Joseph Eligah Seeley, though from a different stem than that of Susan. I have carried out much research into the elusive J E and have acquired a lot of additional info, but still cannot find his family on the various Canadian censuses.

I suppose the best place to start is to list the additional information I have. So in no particular order (as they say), here goes.
On his son James(my late father) birth cert, he is listed as Joseph G. Seeley.
On his marriage cert in 1920, he is listed as Francis Joseph Eligha Seeley and his father's name is listed as Francis Chas Seely(no final E) and his father's occupation is listed as a miner. My only surviving uncle has told me previously that Joseph's father died of copper poisoning at a young age from working in the mines.
My uncle has also previously informed me that Joseph had 2 brothers, Charles and Ned.

The following information is taken from Joseph's Canadian Army service record.

His mother's forenames are variously listed as J E and Mary Ann. i think we can discount the J E as these are Joseph's initials! So that leaves his mother  called Mary Ann something. In different parts of his service record her surname is listed as Dubroy, Dubriel and Dubreil.
Her place of residence is variously listed as Coniston, Sudbury and Dill Siding. Tellingly, I presume, the details listed on where Joseph's army pay should be sent to are
Mrs Mary A Dubreil, Dill Siding Ontario.

His DOB on his attestation papers is given as 18-1-1898 but at his demob he gives his DOB as   25-1-1900.

He travelled from Canada to England on 30-4-1917 on board the SS Megantic and returned to Canada after the war on 4-10-1919 on board the SS Belgic.

The only other piece of info I have that may help identify his family is that in 1908, as a young boy aged 8 or 10, depending on which DOB is correct, he lost half of the thumb and 2 fingers of his left hand in the exploding of a dynamite detonator. This event may or may not have been newsworthy at the time.
As I say, although I have all this information, I appear no nearer to finding his family in any census.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks. 
     


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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #22 on: Monday 19 May 14 22:26 BST (UK) »
that is my granddad he had fingers and thumb missing on his left hand
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 12:12 BST (UK) »
hi city hall you have found my granddad the only other info I can give you is he had 5 kids with my grandmar ? james seeley john seeley Charles seeley Kathleen seely and francis seeley .francis seeley is my farther. can you tell me if my granddad was married before ?
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 20 May 14 15:41 BST (UK) »
susanmj nice to have a rellie posting....especially one who sent for the ww1 info!
Hello City Hall and welcome to the site!  If you could post one more time so we can private message you.... and yes, never make a new thread when one is existing, thanks for your foresight. J.J.
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 00:43 BST (UK) »
In case he was an uncle...George Seely, wife Agnes & family 1911 & 1921 ( also had a Joseph and a Charles)
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=86187
1921   http://www.rootschat.com/links/0zce/
Oh, this is the same George who had wife Francis in 1901 and Mary Daley the adopted daughter in 1901
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=95283&highlight=26

although I've found four various spellings of Dubreuil in Nipissing 1921 ( 3 in Airy), I see no mary
There is a burial Airy for a DUBREUIL, Mary Jane   - St Martin of Tours Roman Catholic
Nipissing Airy  NP-4050 ??
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 02:05 BST (UK) »
O.k. I finally found the connection!!!...perhaps she was born out of wedlock using her mother's maiden name. Nope I disproved this in next posting
marriage January 7 1897    Sudbury, Nipissing, Ontario, Canada
Francis Chas Sealey b. 1872 parents  Joseph Sealey & Henrietta Laronde
spouse Mary Ann Mcneiley b. 1879 parents Charles Mcneiley & Catherine Dubreuil
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZYB-YVP


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F25L-NDH
You'd have to investigate the double entry..... he may have had a twin or they covered both spellings? http://www.nipissingongenweb.org/vitstat.html

SEALEY, Joseph  26-Oct-1897 (Town) Sudbury  fthr: Francis Chas. mother:McNULTY, Mary Ann     
SEELEY, No Name    26-Oct-1897  McKim    fthr: SEELEY, Frank  mother:Not Given
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