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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 02:36 BST (UK) »
Nope I was wrong there is more Dubreuil ......Marriage 10 Feb 1901 Sudbury, Nipissing, Ontario,
Edward Dubreuil  23 /1878   William Dubreuil & Olive Gervais
Mary Ann Mc Neil Sealy  24 /1877  John Mc Neil & Catherine Dubreuil

I did see an Edward and made me wonder about "NED" but I didn't see a Mary, I think she used her next name...as mary is often a French Catholic forename, which can be dropped... ( as is Joseph and many other Saint's names)
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 02:53 BST (UK) »
Great finds, J.J.!

Given other records, I suspect that the Charles as the father of Mary Ann s/b John. Also, the mother as McNulty could almost be McNeelly on the image.

There is a death of a Francis Seely 32 on 20 Dec 1899 in Renfrew that may be connected. It was registered by Mrs Francis Seely, so no first name, unfortunately. This man was a farmer and died of TB, which doesn't match the info given earlier. However...

Mary Ann is a Widow when she marries Edward Dubreuil. There was an Edward Dubreuil as witness to Mary's marriage to Francis. Perhaps the same Edward?

The children born to this apparent second marriage of Mary Ann that I found birth records for have Mary Ann McNeely (with a wide variation of spellings) as their mother.

Eligah can be found with this family group in the 1911 census on Ancestr*, indexed as Eliza Dubrell but the image is clearly Eligah.  He is indexed as Eligal Dubrell at automatedgenealogy.com (free to use and original images are provided). It was common for children to take the surname of their stepfather when they were young. The other children would be half-siblings to Eligah.

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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 03:21 BST (UK) »
I just found them in 1911 as well... ;D polarbear!

Maryanne as McNeley in 1891 with parents & siblings
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/jpg/30953_148157-00315.jpg

The site I posted earlier with Joseph's birth also has William Clifford Dubreuil's birth- mother as McNealy,   Jean Howard has mother as MacNeil
and to confuse the issue another child with first name Mary ...( I have seen families of all sons on census named Joseph so be happy it was not also used on census...)
Mary Florence McNeely...March 4 1891 Bonfield parents   John McNeely & Catherine Dubruiel item also says...Reg. By self, married name Howey or Harvey?

Holy Mackeral they had five more after the 1891...trying to populate the the area all by themselves  ;D
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=94638&highlight=18
Just hit the LINKS to see them in 1911 as well


I'll add one more from 1851 as Joseph born U.S. appears with a Harriet amongst "La Rone " family in Carleton...Appears to be a  one year old Jane as well. http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/View.jsp?id=1181&highlight=10&desc=1852+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Hariet+Seely

do let us know if you need more help, although it should be easier to follow them now.
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 20:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Susanmj, sorry for the delay in replying. No, I'm very sure Joseph was NOT married twice. Bear in mind, he was married in 1920 to our grandmother Kate McDonnell when he was aged 20, 21 or 22. It is very unlikely he was previously married prior to this date.

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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 20:11 BST (UK) »
Hi JJ and polarbear. JJ, sorry for the delay in replying and thank you both for welcoming me to the forum. Please regard this post as a 'holding' reply. Things are starting to look very interesting from both your most recent posts. I have only glanced over them very quickly, but I am getting excited. Please indulge me while I read them more thoroughly, and then I will post a more comprehensive reply. Thank you again for taking the time to help.

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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 21:04 BST (UK) »
good evening jj and polarbear can I just take this time to thank you so much for all your help .I am cob smacked with all the info you have given us .am still trying to digest it all
to city hall we must be cousins I jnow my dads brother james seeley stayed in Ireland and had kids I think you are one of the kids from james and Sheila? anyway way its so nice to know you am susan Jeffery(seeley) and am the youngest daughter of your uncle francis seeley
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 21:29 BST (UK) »
There were a lot of helpers in this search, I rather lucked upon some info with the right search keywords. Let us know if you need more help...The French Catholic naming can be difficult to decipher...the phonetic versionscan be just about anything...as you saw from Dubroy, Debrul, etc.
Note the Dubrois? surname for Catherine in the birth entry for Thomas Harvey McNeely

and I just saw this one for Clara's birth & Catherine's surname makes no sense at all??
McNEELY, Clara Isabella March 14 1893 Bonfield -parents John McNEELY & Catherine GELROY/Gilroy

Even Catherine's death in 1930 has surname Dubroy
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK42-2FW
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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 21 May 14 23:29 BST (UK) »
Susanmj, I have sent you a PM.

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Re: looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 22 May 14 04:06 BST (UK) »
The Canada census has images you can peruse as well.... John McNeeley was born in Ontario, his parents are listed as both being from Ireland.

In 1852 census the page has been transcribed thus as 3 separate surnames:

McNelly, John    Farmer/Ireland/Catholic /38/M
McNuly, Cathrine Ireland/Catholic/29/F
McNely, John Canada/Catholic/8/M
McNely, Patrick Canada/Catholic/6/M
McNely, Honora Canada/Catholic/4/F
McNely, M?Ann Canada/Catholic /2/F
bottom of page then says it could also be McNulty or McNally, hehe...
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/View.jsp?id=20716&highlight=16

You can look under McNelly in 1871 census, where they have eight children
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1871/Pages/1871.aspx

This person had her surname as Fergus, and appears to have a marriage etc. for them.
Something for you to check through...
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SHAMROCK/2006-05/1146599487


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