looking for info on Joseph Eligah Seeley born

[susanmj]

Trying to trace Joseph Eligah Seeley born 18 Jan.1898. According to WWI attestation papers his mother was Mrs. J. Dubroy of Sudbury, Ontario. Would like to find details of parents and siblings
thank you 

[nickgc]

Please ignore... been on the computer too long.  I completely blew it by disregarding the middle name you posted.
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Here is a good bet for his family in 1911.  You can look at the original at automatedgenealogy.com

 Seeley Colin   M Head M Feb 1872 39
 Seeley Nellie   F Wife M Dec 1876 35
 Seeley Duncan   M Son S Aug 1887 14
 Seeley Joseph   M Son S Mar 1898 13
 Seeley George   M Son S Dec 1900 10
 Seeley Edith   F Daughter S Feb 1906 5 

The family might be in 1901 also, but names are a bit confusing.

mod:  aha!  Joseph in 1901 is "J. Charles age 3", but transcribed as "L. Charles".

See also tree at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gougenie&id=I15398

Nick

[aghadowey]

Came across lots of details on family of Colin & Nellie Seeley with a son Joseph but information doesn't fit.

Wondering if this might be Joseph Eligah's mother and her 2nd family in 1911 (Sudbury and Nipissing are next to each other I think)-
1911 Haileysburg, Nipissing, Ontario
James Dubroy? born Oct.1881 Ontario (French descent)
wife Minnie Dubroy? born Aug.1879 Quebec? (Irish descent)
son Clarence Dubroy? born Oct.1909 Ontario
daughter Lena Dubroy? born Dec.1910 Ontario

Partially extracted details below:
Birth: Clarence Alexander Dubroy, 1 Oct.1909, father James Christopher Dubray prospector, mother Minnie Florence Scott

Marriage: 11 Feb.1909, James Dubray, son of Alex Dubray + Melinda Belangier, to Minnie Scott, 28, dau. of William Scott + Cathern Johnson.

Minnie Dunray died 13 Nov.1918 (pneumonia- 1 week) at Timiskaming district, Ont., born Masham, Ont.

Possibly Joseph Eligah Seeley going to Ireland-
7 March 1920 "Melita" arrived Liverpool, England from St. John, New Brunswick, Canada, Joseph E. Seeley, 28, labourer, Easter? St. Roscommon.

If this record is correct perhaps Joseph served in WWI, met his wife and then went over to Roscommon where they married and had family.

[susanmj]

thank you we now think that is correct and my grandmar was from liverpool so you must me right they went over to ireland as i know my gran was not happy in liverpool he also did serve in  WW1

[Jacquie in Canada]

The age of Joseph E. Seeley on the Melita is out by about 6 years if the date of birth on the attestation papers is correct and if that is the correct family on the 1911 census then where is Joseph. He would have been 13 at the time but isn't with that family.

Susan, can you provide more information on who Joseph married and where? Do you have a copy of the marriage registration?

Jacquie

[J.J.]

James wasn't the next husband either, as Minnie did die, but in 1918... it also says she was married at the time...
plus Joseph's signup was in 1916
Found a Joseph Dubroy in 1891 census for Nippising, but doesn't help much as no marriages to be found
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=2149396

[susanmj]

hi guys thank for the help i really carnt tell you much i am waiting the return of my sister to ask her for more info  i know that my granddad did lie about his age ? but i don't know ether that was for WW1 or WW2 ? Joseph marred Kathleen McDonnell and my grandma was from Liverpool ?  they spent a lot of yrs in Belfast
my granddad passed away in 1972 when i was 4 but my older bro and sister remember him
if this is any help i do know that my granddads brother was a mayor of a town in canada but don't know which one ?
i will post tonight when my sister is back
thank you all so much 
sorry guys forgot to add my sister said she did see a old picture of granddads family she said she remembered how they was dressed she think they was natives to canada ?

[Jacquie in Canada]

I'm just rather confused about everything. Joseph Eligah Seeley didn't have to lie about his age on his WWI attestation papers. The date of birth listed meant he turned 18 about 8 months prior to enlisting. If he were born before 1898 it wouldn't make sense to lie to make himself younger when he enlisted in WWI. Or if he was born after 1898 that would make the age on that passenger list entry really out. All that being said, are you certain that the Joseph Seeley you are looking for is Joseph Eligah Seeley? There were other Joseph Seeleys who were in the Canadian military for WWI. Do you have any documents regarding Joseph where his middle name is listed? Do you have a marriage registration for Joseph marrying your grandmother? Do you have his death certificate? Can you get a copy of his WWII military file? If he lied about his year of birth to fight in WWII, he would have no reason to change the day and month of his birth so that might help figure this out.

Jacquie

[susanmj]

oh jac i see what you are saying now ? i will ring my sister to ask more and no we have nothing but his name ? she did say he wasnt very tall and he had black hair blue eyes he was also RC she did also say he had half siblings ?