GRO Birth Ref No : William Frederick Harper

[OllieH]

In order to establish the parentage of William Frederick Harper , born 22 august 1842 in Birmingham, I need the GRO ref No  to get his birth cert. Can someone help please.
Many thanks.

[silvery]

He may not have been registered.  He's not showing up on freebmd.   Registration became compulsory in 1875 (with penalties for failing to do so).  Many births were registered before this though, but I cannot see this one.

[silvery]

The IGI seems to have him  http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

(The Latter Day Saints)


22 Aug 1842       
Christening:     
19 Sep 1842      Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

parents:  William Harper and Sarah (no surname given)

[Mum44]

There is a registration for an un - named male Harper Q3. 1842 Birmingham  Vol 16  Pg. 340   

[silvery]

To search the IGI

enter the name and surname
event year (here I did 1844 with +/- two years)
Region:  British Isles
Country: England
County: Warwick

gives you a few results, you can have a look at them all.  

Where did you get the birthday from?

[OllieH]

Thanks for the responses. I got the birth date from the IGI.

[OllieH]

Hi again. Perhaps I should explain that my William Frederick Harper should be the son of William(b 1806) and Sarah Maria( nee Walker b.1819). He is listed as living with his parents in Birmingham in the 1851 and 1861 censuses and with his wife and kids in the 1871 census - all saying his birthplace being Birmingham. However, in the 1881,1891 and 1901 censuses a person with the name William ( no Frederick), the same wife and kids, all with the same birth years, is shown as being born in Dudley.
On GenesReunited someone is claiming that the latter William is a different person, actually born in Dudley, but with the same parents christian names although the mother's maiden surname is Jones(Not Walker). I want to clarify the question by getting the birth cert and the mother's maiden name. I suppose he might have physically been born in Dudley although his parents were living in Birmingham. And/or the un-named Harper might be him.

[silvery]

On the 1851 census there are two William Harpers b 1842 with parents William and Sarah. 

HO107/2063/316/13
William Harper 49 beer seller b Meriden
Sarah 45
Oliver 17
John 14
Kate 12
William 8 b Meriden
Charles Harper father wid 77 formerly a publican
Thomas Harper 43 brother labourere
Charles Terrage 23 visitor

and

HO107/2063/325/7
William Harper 60 malster (could be 40 - writing unclear)
Sarah 40
William 8 b Meriden
Isabella 7

all b Meriden

[silvery]

By 1861, RG9/2165/99/8
 a William F Harper shows up with a mother Sarah
Sarah M Harper 42 wid launderess
William F 18 a f**** clerk (can't quite read it)
Richard 15 brass founder
Charles 13 watch key maker
Rose Hannah 10

all b Birmingham

There's also another one
RG9/2152/80/14
William Harper 41 brass finisher
Sarah Harper 44
William 18 brass finisher
Martha 16
Henry 14
Samuel 6
Arabella 8
Joseph 4
Herbert 2
James Fullard    17

all b Dudley

There's a lot of these names about!   and some varying occupations!