Maybe so, CaileanMac, but right now we need to document 'our' Robert's parents. Only then can we trace this Abernethie cadet line back to Scots Royality. Until then, it's only hearsay as far as we are concerned. The English researcher we paid several hundred dollars to some years ago was a total scam in our opinion: lots of copies of stuff we already had discovered here but not one iota from the British sources we really need!