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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 May 09 21:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks Erato, Genealiza and Lisa in California. My Thomas J. Thomas does fit into slot of one found in 1880 in Peach Bottom, then in 1900 Stearns Precinct living as a widow with mother in law Winifred, again in 1910 in Dis 5, Harford.
Son Arthur was living back in Wales with his aunt on 1891 and 1901 UK Census.
Any tips on how I can locate descendants of Thomas? Maybe location of burial, or desendants of daughter Lina that was living with her father on 1910 US Census?
Thanks,
Mandy
Thomas - Glanmeurig, Bethesda
Thomas/Coll/O'Rourke - PA,USA
Evans/Jones/Brennan - Australia
Pritchard - Bangor & Bethesda
Williams - Bodfeurig, Bethesda

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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 May 09 14:32 BST (UK) »
Since Lina was still a "spinster" at age 30, you would need to look for a possible marriage from 1910 onward to proceed any further.  Margaret is already out of the house by 1910, she probably married between 1900 and 1910.  They were living in Harford county during those years, so I would try and find marriage records there, possibly with the help from someone at RAOGK--(random acts of genealogical kindness).  You can google search the address.

You can also try contacting the library  http://www.hcplonline.info/services/onlineservices.html  in Bel Air, Maryland.  On the homepage it has a link to "ask the library".  You might ask if they have any marriage records for the early 1900s or any cemetery or obituary records for that time period that would include your people of interest.   I would confine your question to one or two simple questions.  If you get a response, then you can ask another.

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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 May 09 19:42 BST (UK) »
I'm on break at work, and I've not read the post carefully...hopefully, this could be a possibility:
Margaret W Miller, 1920 Peach Bottom, York, PA census.
Age 41, born about 1879, PA
Parents born Wales.
Husband: Lansing Miller, age 38 years, born about 1882, PA
Children:
Paul
Ruth
Margaret D
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 May 09 19:46 BST (UK) »
1910 Census, 5th District Harford, PA
Lansing Miller
Margaretta
Paul
Living about 4 houses away from the Millers is Thomas J Thomas and Lina.

Back to work, sorry.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)


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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 May 09 19:53 BST (UK) »
Lisa, I think you maybe have a hit there.  I found this in the Delta Herald And Times of Delta, Pennsylvania from 21 Apr. 1911, in a column entitled West Bangor Budget:  "Mrs. Ebenezer Jones is visiting at the home of her grand daughter Mrs. Lansing Miller at Ludwig."

In the same paper from 4 Oct. 1912, it says that "the stork" left a baby girl at the home of Lansing Miller.

In the same paper from 22 Sep. 1932, it says that Mrs. Elizabeth Davies visited her niece Mrs. Lansing Miller for several days last week in West Bangor.  Maybe that was Elizabeth Jones?

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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 May 09 20:26 BST (UK) »
Here's another mention that seems to fit:
Delta Herald And Times 25 Apr. 1913
"Miss Ella Kelley and Mrs. James J. Williams and little nephew Thomas Williams spent a day recently at the home of Mr. & Mrs. Lansing Miller where little Thomas made the acquaintance of his great grand mother Mrs. Eben Jones.  Thomas is the infant son of Jas. E. and the late Lina Thomas Williams."

An "In Memory" notice from 26 Dec. 1913 says that Lina Williams, wife of James, died 27 Dec. 1912.

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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 May 09 20:37 BST (UK) »
I found an obit for Lina Holly Williams from 3 Jan. 1913.  It says she died at her home in Ludwig, Maryland on Dec. 27th.  She was the youngest daughter of the late Thomas J. Thomas.  Her mother was Jane, daughter of Winifred & Ebenezer Jones.  It says Jane died when Lina was 6 months old, leaving her and her sister Margaret (Mrs. Lansing Miller) to the care of her grandparents.  Her brother Arthur was taken to Bethesda, North Wales, where he still resides.  Lina married James E. Williams, son of the late Richard Williams, on 16 Nov. 1910.  James was a widower with 4 small children and his 1st wife died when the youngest was 11 days old.  Lina had daughter Jane Winifred born 7 Aug. 1911 and son Thomas Ellsworth on 16 Dec. 1912.  She was buried in Slateville cemetery and her pallbearers included cousins Owen, Richard, and Will Clyde Williams, Warren Jones, Maurice Thomas, and John Schrader.

Quite a sad story.   

There is a notice in the Delta paper from a group called I.O.R.M. from 24 Nov. 1911 that refers to their departed brother Thomas J. Thomas.  Not sure when he died, though.

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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #16 on: Monday 18 May 09 20:55 BST (UK) »
Possible last residence: Greenwich, New York.  Name was Marcella (not Margaret).  Passed away in 1967.

Lansing Miller had a last residence of Greenwich.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Thomas J Thomas, Wales
« Reply #17 on: Monday 18 May 09 21:08 BST (UK) »
I think that might be a different Lansing Miller, Lisa.  I found an obit for George A. Miller, a brother of Lansing Miller of Greenwich, New York & it said George was born Troy, New York and spent much of his life in Greenwich.  I also found an obit for John J. Boyle born in Ireland and long-time resident of Greenwich, whose sister was Mrs. Lansing Miller of Greenwich.