Birthplace Details For non-UK people on 1911 census?

[gougy]

Hi, Does anyone know how detailed the birthplace details are on the 1911 for people born outside the UK? I have an Irish great grandmother who is only listed as born Ireland on the 1901 - is the 1911 likely to be more specific? Anyone had experience of this?

Thanks

[CaroleW]

Hi

I had my great grandparents as b Ireland from 1861-1901.  One daughter b Ireland all others Liverpool

By 1911 the g/grandparents were dead but daughter shows Belfast as birthplace on the 1911

Thank goodness as she died 1919 so I would never have  known

[Alan b]

On an entry for my Mattocks family two of the children were born in India and it does give the place and another child was born in Africa and again it mentions where they were born.

It is annoying when the place of birth is listed as just a county or country, I have two relatives back on the 1851 census where it says just Somerset which is really annoying as they birth died before 1861.

[aghadowey]

Ireland was part of the United Kingdom in 1911. It's hard to know without actually viewing the census whether birthplace is listed as 'Ireland' or a more exact location.

[suzard]

1911 census was filled in by head (or other member of ) household - so place of birth will be as they write it - as opposed to an enumerator filling it in

the only way to find out is to view the census

suz

[Nick29]

The 1911 census was no different to any other census (post 1840).  The enumerator left a census form at a household, and somebody in the household filled it in.  The enumerator then transferred the data from each form in schedule order, into his book.  The enumerators rarely helped householders in the completion of the forms.

What makes the 1911 census different is that the actual schedule forms were stored, as well as the enumerator returns.  In all the preceding censuses, the schedules didn't survive once they had been transferred into the books.

[suzard]

Thanks for the correction, nick - I didn't really explain myself very well - what  i should have said is 1911 is different in that you can view what your ancestors wrote - rather than just enumerators returns

Suz

[Nick29]

No problem, Suz.   There is a common misconception that the 1911 census was the first one where forms were issued to households, and I thought that's what you were saying.  I'm glad we've clarified it.

[~Rachel~]

My ggg grandfather only ever had his birth recorded as Ireland on previous census returns so could never get any further back.

However on the 1911 he put down Inistiogue (sp?!) in Kilkenny, so through that was able to find his birth, parents and siblings.

I reckon it's worth a look!