births at edinburgh castle

[jean12]

I have been trying to find the birth of my g.father william herbert dempster believed to have been born at edinburgh castle approx 1898, his father also called william dempster was supposedly a game keeper/gardener for the castle.   has anyone got any suggestions as to where to look,  a friend on an other site did look on scottish records for me but could find no trace of him or his father.  the family moved to manchester area approx 7yrs later for which I can still find no evidence of him.
any help appreciated.

thanks
jean

[CaroleW]

Hi

I am just listing this to bear in mind if any more info comes to light

If the Dempster family returned to Manchester 7yrs after William was born - they should be on the 1911 census

The 1911 free index shows William Herbert Dempster aged 13 living in West Derby Liverpool but if you search for him with a birthplace of Scotland - nothing shows up.  If you search with a birthplace of Liverpool - he shows up on the index

So we have the right name and age but wrong birthplace and location

There is this birth on freebmd

Births March qtr 1899 
 
William Bertie DEMPSTER  West Derby  8b 443 (Bertie/Herbert??)

Living in Manchester in 1901 is a William Dempster b Scotland 1866 occ stone granite cutter but he does not have a son called William

[jean12]

hi carole,

thanks for the reply,   I looked on the 1911 census, not sure if its the right william herbert, he is listed as being the stepson of william wallace, on g.fathers marriage certificate it states william dempster, it does not say the father was deceased so I assume he was still living at the time of g.fathers marriage, but where.

the 1899 birth is also wrong, wrong fathers name.  W.H's father was a gamekeeper/gardener supposed to have been at the castle.   

Im still not sure of this, also his year of birth does not coincide with his age on his marriage certificate, I make him being born 1894, but new found cousins insist it was 1898.

I have his army discharge papers also his medal record, he was in the manchester depot reg, he enrolled in seaford.

thanks for the help
jean

[CaroleW]

Hi

The 1911 entry you looked at - was mother Elizabeth b Scotland?

Freebmd

Marriages December qtr 1907 
 
DEMPSTER  Elizabeth Annie    West Derby  8b 962   
 
WALLACE  William     West Derby  8b 962

Did WH marry Emma Holland in 1918 Toxteth Park?  If his age at the time of marriage suggests a birthyear of 1894, unless the new found cousins can provide proof positive of an 1898 birthyear I would go with 1894.

On his marriage cert - is his fathers occupation shown?

Where did the story come from about his father working at Edinburgh Castle?

 

[jean12]

hi carole,

William H married Daisy Walker, 8.11.1919, age given as 25, his father was a gardener.

I only found out the other information from new cousin last year, my parents seperated when I was a baby, its taken me about 10 yrs to find cousins. this is first contact after 55yrs,   I was told that our nan and her mother said about WH being born in edinburgh castle and his father being gamekeeper/gardener,  he def lived in manchester area sometime before  ww1 tho as he joined up there.

I did send for the birth certificate for bertie william bn derby, but the fathers occupation was wrong plus the year of birth was way out, 1899.

jean

[CaroleW]

That's why I didn't find the marriage - they married in Brentford Middlesex and he is shown just as William Dempster whereas I was looking in Lancshire