Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)

[Auimfo]

Bit More,

Fairly confident of Catherine Curran being Kate Curran NOK

NAME   Curran, Joseph James    NOK   Kate Curran Coonamble Dubbo NSW   

Catherine Curran home duties at Gilgandra on NSW Electoral Roll 1930 This is in the State seat of Dubbo, Fed seat of Gwyir, Polling place Gilgandra. (no street address, suggesting this voter had been on the roll for a considerable time, other entries for Curran at Gilgandra as under (listed as by possible households- all same surname)
Annie, Miller St, home duties
Honora, Miller St, home duties
Mary Evelyn (no street, perhaps Catherine’s sis?) home duties
Ethel May, Bundah (presume house/farm name would be typ of that era), Collie Rd, home duties
Patrick Michael Gilbert, Collie Rd, sheep owner (no name for farm, we suggest “Bundah”)
John Gratton, Eriban St, a butcher

I've just checked this family out.

Catherine (nee' Foran) was the wife of John Gratten Curran.   They married in 1915.
Honora was John's mother and Annie was his sister.

Therefore it is highly unlikely that this Catherine is the one we're seeking.

Sorry Just Moi.

Cheers,
Tim L.

[majm]

Thanks Tim,

The searching continues

JM

[deeiluka]

Hi,
In Josepj Curran records there is a note saying that the fiance thought that his mother was in Victoria working as a cook in a Hotel. I cant find her on the rolls as such, she most likely married anyway, presuming that she was a single Mum. Or she had died by the time the army were looking for her.
Can someone have a look for marriages and deaths in Victoria around this time, we may be  looking for the wrong name.
Really the only thing that is going to show for sure who she was are the actual birth and death certs and none of us can afford to buy them to find the family. Though I always get tempted when I find a likely suspect.
mum mum
Just a thought, local historical societies are often good value on this sort of thing, perhaps if someone finds the society closest to where he was born or mum was living they may be able to find something in the way of newspaper articles etc.

There are too many Catherine Currans to know    which one is most likely, MM......the only one I've seen in Victoria worth a mention is a 50 year old Catherine Curran who died in 1916 at Ballarat, and her parents were unknown.
Ref = 8531

And in that particular case it could well be that the certificate wouldn't tell us much anyway. And  checking the electoral rolls, it seems there were Currans in the Ballarat area, including another Catherine.   


Dee

[deeiluka]

Joseph James Curran enrolled in Brisbane, next of kin given as Kate Curran.

On the 1919 Electoral Roll, there is a Kate Curran who is listed as a cook at All Hallows Convent, Ann St, Fortitude Valley, Brisbane.


Dee

[majm]

Bit More,

There is an arrival in NSW on the vessel Glamis of Kate Curran Age: 16 (abt 1865)  Female 
Arrived 10 Jan 1881.  Could be her?

Just Moi

[majm]

Bit More

Kate Curran on Glamis passenger list image is online, shows others with same name on same voyage.

ADD:

Ellen, Grace and Kate, on an emigration scheme, Single women, AND the matron in charge was  Ellen Chicken,.  The Curran girls all listed together, all from Donegal,  all domestics
Ellen aged 21 (abt 1860)
Grace aged 20 (abt 1861)  I cannot decipher info on the far right of that image
Kate aged 16 (1865)

second ADD  still cannot find UK port of departure, perhaps IRELAND, still looking


JM

FURTHER EDIT,
Please see later postings on this thread for information about that voyage, and other passengers with CURRAN surname on that voyage.

[deeiluka]

There is also a Catherine Curran born in Maitland, NSW in 1869 to a Michael Curran and Anne.
Ref = 13249

They also had a son John Curran in Maitland in 1865. Ref = 10587

And a son Michael born in Maitland in 1867. Mother's name spelt Ann. Ref = 11722
Michael appears to have died in West Maitland in 1944.
Ref = 21595

And a Catherine Curran, parents Michael and Ann, died in 1915 in Brewarrina. Ref = 7456 That's  a long way from Maitland!!!!

This really is needle in haystack searching.      


Dee

[majm]

Agree,

Isn't Ignatius a variation for Joseph - and the Fromelles missing lad - born Maitland,

I thought Curran would be unusual and was expecting to see typos with Curren or Correen etc.  but not this many as Curran.  I thought the one at Gilgandra would be Kate, but ... seems not to be.   

I hope your 1919 Roll find will be the one.

Joseph James Curran enrolled in Brisbane, next of kin given as Kate Curran.

On the 1919 Electoral Roll, there is a Kate Curran who is listed as a cook at All Hallows Convent, Ann St, Fortitude Valley, Brisbane.

IF NOT, please think about this one:

Curran at Maitland – not sure about these, although Joseph James Curran was born Maitland
NSW Electoral Roll 1930, Fed Seat Hunter, State Seat Maitland, Polling Place Maitland
Lines 1411 to 1415, listed under to show households rather than as per lines on roll
Alice Ann at Roxburgh St Lorn, West Maitland, home duties
Ignatius at Roxburgh St Lorn, West Maitland, bridge carpenter
Alma Veronica at Olive St Telarah, West Maitland, home duties
John Henry at Olive St Telarah, West Maitland, miner
James Vincent at The Avenue, Lorn, West Maitland, chemist’s assistant (not sure if that would be a retail chemist or perhaps as an assistant– say mining R & D lab)

JM

[mum mum]

Hi,
If Cath Curran was a Coonamble when Joseph enlisted it could also be possible that she was the Cath Curran that died at Brewarrina in 1915. I had a quick Google this afternoon and its not that far away.
If it was my family I would be buying the birth certificate for Joseph Curran 1887, father unknown because it may show the mother's place of birth, age, and any other children which would then give us something to go on. Then you could try to find more about her.
 She must have been at least 45 or so you would think when Joseph enlisted, so maybe it was her that died at Brewarrina.
mum mum
Just looking at my notes, the cath Curran that died at Brewarrina was the daughter or Michael and Ann Curran.

So where the hell is Maitland anyway? I dont think that we should rule out the Maitland born Cath, as being the one who died in Brewarinna, after all, she was living at Coonamble.