Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)

[fedelmar]

All the Jack's were John and all the John's were Jack!

[deeiluka]

I think we can count the Michael and Jane couple out....an earlier search reveals that a Michael CURRAN married a Jane MCManus in Tumut in 1874....too early to be the Michael I'm trying to track down.   

Bother....one of their children was a John Joseph which looked likely.

Oh well, back to the drawing board..... 


Dee

[majm]

Hi Everyone,

Following sightings in Sands Directories, and again I will edit this post

edit 1

1905 Sands Country Directories CURRAN - several, but these seem possibles
James, at Exchange Hotel, Ballina
John, at Bega, contractor (Bega, far south coast NSW near TUMUT)
P, (only an initial) at Victoria Hotel, Tolarno,

edit 2
1905 Sands country Dir NOLAN
James & Son, undertakers and carpenters at Lockhadt
Mrs, (no initials) Store at Maitland

edit 3
others with Nolan surname same as 1903 entries already listed

edit 4
 Sands 1909 Country (21 with surname CURRAN)

CURRAN, Con., at Royal Hotel Gilgandra (NEAR DUBBO) 

edit 5
Re Royal Hotel at Gil - NOT Kate !

Sands 1917

Curran, Mrs H, Royal Hotel at Gilgandra  (Mrs H, - not Mrs K, unless it was lithgographic typo, and MM has previously found a death for Kate 1915 at Brewarrina,)



  JM

[Andcarred]

Hi All,

This one is a difficult search.  I think the Curran/Nolan lot have been such wanderers in far flung outback towns that it is unlikely they will appear on many directories or electoral rolls as they have not stayed long enough in one place. 

I looked for Brewarrina cemetery records and can't find anything.  It was a very remote town in 1915 (still is!).  If nobody can come up with anything else on them I am willing to pay to get a copy of her death certificate as this seems to be the only lead we have of any substance.  However as she would not have given the information herself  it is a bit of a gamble that the person who has furnished the information has given it correctly but I think we have to take the chance as I don't know of anywhere else to go with this one.

The John Henry Nolan who died in Granville aged 83 years is probably the correct one.  This would make him born c 1953/4 and I can't find a birth for him (before compulsory registration anyway).  Not worth getting his death certificate as there are no parents named.  He was most likely in the Rydalmere Asylum.  Also just because the mother lived with him at some time it does not prove that the son (Joseph James Curran) is his child.

What do others think?  Does anyone have access to the Police Gazette entry?

Andcarred

[deeiluka]

Andcarred,
I wonder if it is worth posting a specific request on the Australian board asking if anyone on there has access to the Police Gazettes. There may be someone who does not check out these threads.

Re a certificate.....it's a real gamble with this one......but if you do, I hope you'll go for the cheaper option of a transcription......  Of course, it could turn out to be wonderfully helpful. 

I've been checking out Michael Curran's in Electoral Rolls, but again, there is nothing that really connects.


Dee

[majm]

Hi Ancarred and Dee,

I don't have access to the Police Gazettes, just found that index by serendipity, but ......, and I agree with Dee about the lack of info or its accuracy on a death Transcript, which could take 2 or 3 weeks to obtain from transcript services or longer and more expensive if order the full certificate. 

Perhaps Andcarred, you could post specific request on Aust boards for that look up. 

JM

[majm]

Bit More,

On Qld BDM online, (following up on a thread for one of the other Fromelles-missing - Lads), this may be a clue too.  Qld made every effort to honour AIF fallen who had enlisted in Qld.  The "F" in this reference reflects that this registration indicaties the AIF death occurred outside of Qld.

1922/F2034 Curran J.J. - - ** aged 33 years

JM

[majm]

Bit More,

Just to confuse us but on QLDBDM index marriages
1884/B9114   Mullen   Catherine    (to) Curran   Joseph

Could Mrs Kate Curran have divorced ? and if so, which state, and where to find any online index.  I will try NSW State Archives on line and will edit this post.

Edit 1

1915 seems wrong decade for NSW, and following may be simply an application for maintenance, but noticed the names of one respondent was a CURRAN Joseph Michael

Edit 2

Probate listing on NSW State Archives (three forenames)
John Henry Monteith Nolan - Date of Death 23/01/1941, Granted On 21/03/1941  - this would probably match the NSW BDM 1209/1941 for registration at Chatswood, an adult son of a John Adams Nolan and Sarah Susan.

still searching

JM

[majm]

Bit More,

From the digitial images for all the AIF in WW1 - naa.gov.au

AIF volunteer in WW1, wounded Aug 1916 France, returned to Aust after the Armistice – records online at Aust Archives  activity on file dated 1962 at pages 15 & 16, but no reason offered for that – probably not related to JJ Curran, but notice the names John Henry Nolan, for the volunteer and for N O K (who was resident of Sth Australia),

NOLAN Henry John Nasan : Service Number - 2203 : Place of Birth - Collingwood VIC : Place of Enlistment - Keswick SA : Next of Kin - (Father) NOLAN Henry John Nasan

Still searching

JM