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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 16 May 09 15:05 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, especially Andcarred,

Your speculation is not wild, and I have read the on-line newspaper article of 4 Sept 1880.  I doubt only the bit in your speculation about the 1872 birth for John Henry Nolan at Maitland, for that would mean he was only 7 or 8 when charged with murder.  BUT that does not make your speculation wild, for the newspaper cutting gives information about John Henry Nolan, including his (and thus Mrs Curran) address at that time.  - John Henry Nolan had "some disagreements" over business transactions with the man who died on about 27 August 1880.  John Henry Nolan was the maintenance man on the Bundarra Road, - seems to me that would indicate he was an adult, and Mrs Curran lived with him.  

So perhaps what we need to consider is simply who was John Henry Nolan who lived in 1880 on the Bundarra Road with Mrs Curran.  And that same article indicates this was in the Inverell district.

Thank you Andcarred, your "wild" speculation may well result in giving a heads up to find the link that helps in the identification process for this fallen AIF volunteer.  

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 16 May 09 15:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you mum mum,

Now three of us thinking along similar lines!

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 16 May 09 15:38 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

From the 1878-79 NSW Electoral Roll, seat of Tenterfield, polling place of Vegetable Creek,
Line 2986 :   James Nolan , residence at Vegetable Creek.

Same roll, but polling place Inverell
Line 800   :   James Curran, residence at Inverell.

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 16 May 09 15:43 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

Found this on an index online,
Curran Kate, alias Woods, listed in 1885 NSW Police Gazette at page 154 

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 17 May 09 01:52 BST (UK) »
there is more intrigue developing with every post ...
Essex: PLAYLE, WHITEHEAD, PAWSEY, FARRAR, HYMUS
Cornwall: POND, DUNGEY, WILLIAMS
Kent: AUSTIN, ROSER, WILSON
Sussex: ROSER, WILSON

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 17 May 09 01:58 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, and fedelmar,

Yes, and I have so little time available as my OH and I will be offline for about ten days soon. 

We are searching through various electoral rolls for both James Nolan and James Curran and will edit this post progressively.  Unfortunately we are not able to follow up on the Kate Curran alias clue.

JM

edit 1
1903 NSW roll, Seat of Gwydir, polling place Bangate
Line 46, Joseph James NOLAN, a labourer  (no sighting of any female named Kate or Catherine)

edit 2
1903 same but polling at Boggabilla
line 289, James Joseph NOLAN of Mobinbry, a contractor (no sighting of Kate)

edit 3
1903 same but polling at Moree
line 1123 Florence Julia Nolan of Greenbah, domestic duties
line 1124 James Joseph NOLAN of Moree, shearer
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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 17 May 09 02:38 BST (UK) »
I'd like to join JM in thanking Andcarred and Mum Mum for their excellent summaries.......it's helped me focus again on this search.

Maybe we should also be looking into the other two children born to Michael and Ann Curran in the Maitland area.....John Curran born 1865 and Michael Curran born 1867.

There's the likely death of Michael Curran registered in 1944 in NSW.

For a death for John Curran, there doesn't appear anything definite in the NSW indexes. There is a John Curran who dies in 1912 with father Michael, but the mother's name is given as Jane.  :-\ (Have eliminated this one....he was only born to these parents in 1894 in Junee. But that raises another question for me....back to the map to position Junee!  ;D  ;D)

 
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 17 May 09 02:45 BST (UK) »
Marriages for a Michael Curran in NSW…..

There’s one to a Christina MCKINLAY  in Sydney in 1891

Another of a Michael H CURRAN to a Bessie PATON in Bathhurst in 1896

And a Michael W H T CURRAN married a Mildred FOLEY in Sydney in 1908.

Next one after that is 1922……and I didn't see the marriage of a Michael Curran to a Jane.  :-\ There are several children born to this couple in Junee, including a John and a Jane C and a Julia A.


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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 17 May 09 02:56 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, especially Dee,

From my own family tree, I know that in 19th C, several times "Jane" and "Ann" were 'same' names, similarly "James" and "John".  It could be similar trend in this instance.

I have gone through the 1903 roll for the seat of Gwydir, online but not keyword searchable.  I will edit this current post as I am reading (again not keyword searchable) onto the Sands Country Directories.

JM

edit 1
1903 Sands under NOLAN
Nolan FW Cordial Manufacturer at Germanton (unlikely)
Nolan J General Store at Wickham (maybe)
Nolan James Carpenter at Lockhart (possibly)
Nolan, Mrs, Australian Hotel, Emmaville (was this Mrs Kate Curran perhaps - a cook at hotels see AIF records)
Nolan, T, Auctioneer West Maitland (where our missing Fromelles lad was born)
Nolan T, a Baker at Islington (is this near Maitland)
Nolan William, at Coraki Hotel, Coraki (hotel mentioned again)

More to follow ON LATER POST
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