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kipling help please
« on: Monday 11 May 09 10:42 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Im looking for any info on George & Martha Kipling, who married in Nottingham in1864, I found them on 1881 census & their children all say born in Sheffield.  Would like to find them on 1871 & 1891,1901 census.  Also any bpt of their children or when Martha & George died.  Martha was born abt 1844 in Newark, Nottingham & George says on 1881 he was born Caxton, Notts abt 1837.
Children on 1881 census - Henry 1866, Annie 1870, George 1872 & William 1874 all born Sheffield.  George is a Cab Driver on 1881 census & they are living at 1 Newton Square, CL4, Sheffield.

Hope someone can help
Jan

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Re: kipling help please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 May 09 11:04 BST (UK) »
1891
40 Well Lane, Eccleshall Bierlow, Yorkshire
George Holmes Head M 24 Spring Knife Cutler Yorks Sheffield
Annie E Wife M 22                                                   " "
George Kipling Lodger M 50 Cab Driver Groom Notts Nottingham
George " (Jnr) Lodger S 19 Hammer Striker Smith Yorks Sheffield
William "             "       S 17 Table Blade Grinder Cutler " "
RG12; Piece: 3806; Folio 111; Page 19

Annie Lizzie Kipling married George Henry Holmes Q2 1890 Sheffield 9c 672
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 May 09 11:10 BST (UK) »
1901
1 The 11 Court, Sheldon Street, Eccleshall Bierlow, Yorkshire
All born Sheffield, Yorkshire
George Hy Holmes Head M 34 Spring Knife Cutler
Annie L Wife M 32
Robert son 8
Agnes daur 5
RG13; Piece: 4354; Folio: 76; Page: 9
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 May 09 11:14 BST (UK) »
1901
34 Cumberland Street, Eccleshall Bierlow, Yorkshire
All born Sheffield, Yorks except George
Harry Kipling Head M 35 Horsekeeper Groom
Fanny Wife M 33 (Deaf and Dumb)
Fanny Daur 16 Silver Buffer White
Harriet daur 14              "
George son 11
Fred son 9
Annie daur 7
Nellie daur 2
George Father Widr 61 Cab Driver Groom Nottingham Notts
RG13; Piece: 4353; Folio: 46; Page: 17
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)


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Re: kipling help please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 May 09 11:17 BST (UK) »
Although the census that MaryA has given you shows George Kipling as married, there is a death in 1887 in Sheffield of a Martha Kipling aged 46. This appears to be the eldest son Henry.

1891
179 Eyre Street, Sheffield
Harry Kipling Head 25  Carter  Sheffield
Frances    Wife 23 Burton on Trent (Deaf & Dumb)
Fanny D 6 Scholar Sheffield
Harriet D    4 Scholar   Sheffield
George S   1 Sheffield
RG12 Piece:3822 Folio:128 Page:37    

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 May 09 12:25 BST (UK) »
Assuming that the marriage you have is Q2 1864 George Kipling to Martha Watson Trickett, do you have the birth certificate of any of the older children to confirm it?

The middle name is actually Walston when you look at the image.
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Re: kipling help please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 May 09 17:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks both for the help,

I know I have the right marriage, Martha was born before her mother Mary Trickett married Thomas Walstow(e) in 1845, She was known as Walstow on the census, but obviously for her marriage to George Kipling in 1864 she has both names.  I have a trascription off a lady that helped me with Nottingham BMDs before & it is Martha Walstow Trickett on the Transcription as well.

Thanks again
Jan

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 09:45 BST (UK) »
From http://www.sheffieldindexers.com

Burials in:
Grave Number 12952, Section X of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield (Consecrated section)

Kipling, Albert (child, age 13mo).
Died at 180 Eyre St; Buried on March 5, 1898

Kipling, Frances (wife of Henry, age 39).
Died at 89 Hodgson St; Buried on May 7, 1907

Kipling, George (Cab Driver, age 73).
Died at 1 Carr Lane; Buried on December 31, 1913

Kipling, Henry (Retired, age 74).
Died at 89 Hodgson St; Buried on January 15, 1941

Kipling, Martha (Married, age 46).
Died at 192 Eyre St; Buried on November 29, 1887

Kipling, Martha (Child, age 17mo).
Died at 179 Eyre St; Buried on September 21, 1889

Bunney, William (Striker, age 66).
Died at 48 Ashby Rd; Buried on May 10, 1918

There are quite a few other KIPLINGs in other graves who might be related.

If you post a query on the message board of that site (no subscription necessary) Tony may be able to tell you if there is a gravestone on this grave.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 09:47 BST (UK) »
On the same site there are baptisms for 2 of Harry and Frances' children.

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