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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 09:07 BST (UK) »
From Thames (Shortland) B/R fiche

Ruth PALMER buried 27 Jul 1885 aged 53, Episc, born England
Charles PALMER buried 4 Jan 1910 aged 78, Episc born London. Ruth's husband according to h/s

Alice PALMER buried 23 Dec 1888 aged 15, Cath, born Thames, plot 2218 - purchased by Mary PALMER, Karangahake
Benjamin PALMER buried 26 Jun 1912 aged 69, Cath, born England, plot 2218
Mary PALMER buried 12 May 1922 aged 83, Cath, born Ireland, plot 2218

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Alice, dau of Ben & Mary PALMER (no date), also Benjamin PALMER, d 23 June 1912 a 69

Alice born 1873 no parents names listed
Sarah Ann born 1875 parents Benjamin/Mary
Gertrude born 1877 same parents
Benjamin James born 1878 same parents

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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 21:16 BST (UK) »
If only we could find the link between all of them and my Christina Palmer  ???

Many Thanks to all for the extra data. :)
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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 21:43 BST (UK) »
Fingers crossed the Fencibles society may have something
Bye
Althea

PS some email contact at bottom of page
http://www.fencible.org.nz/living_museum_education.html
will pass you to right person for lookup

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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 18 June 09 06:11 BST (UK) »
Hi John,

I came across your post by accident, so have just joined rootschat to give you some of the details I have. Benjamin Palmer was the step brother of Christina. He was a miner in Thames during the gold rush. The other witness listed at the marriage, Elizabeth Palmer, was Christina's step sister (there were two Benjamin Palmers in the Thames area at this time-hence some confusion-the other Benjamin was married to Mary (nee Picket) and they had a family in Thames. They are the ones buried in Shortland Cemetary, Thames).

The Benjamin and Christina and Elizabeth Palmers of this post are the children of James and (sometimes Janet) Christina Palmer (was Orr, nee Stewart), who came to NZ as a Fencible on the Berwick Castle in 1852. They were married in Holy Trinity Chapel, Paisley, Scotland on 5th January 1851, and were living at 9 Brick Lane, Paisley at the time of the 1851 UK census (you can check out the Lane on Google maps, street view). James’ occupation is listed as nightwatchman on the census form. James Palmer was born in Ireland, near Cookstown, County Tyrone, in about 1805, and served in the 1st of Foot Regiment, serving in the West Indies and Gibraltar. He was discharged in 1844, due to ill health. Christina Stewart was born in Glasgow in about 1823. On arrival in NZ they settled in Howick, living in Gibraltar St for a while on James’ allotted land. They had 15 children between them, 13 of them together. They are buried in the small churchyard of St Johns Theological College, Auckland.

Christina (the daughter) was born in Paisley, Scotland on 1st May 1852, shortly before their departure to NZ. Benjamin was born in 1940 in Gibraltar, while James was stationed there in the army (obviously born to another woman). Elizabeth Palmer, the other witness to the marriage to James Harvey, was born in Edinburgh in about 1847, while Christina (the mother) was married to Orr.

Christina married James Harvey on 11 April 1873 in Thames. He was born in Birmingham on 6th Oct 1843. They had 3 children, James Charles, Elizabeth Alice and Ruth. Husband James died 19 Sept 1878 in Fielding. Christina remarried Richard Organ (son of another Fencible, Richard Organ) on 9 August, 1883. She had another 4 children from this marriage. She died 27 May 1929 and is buried at Purewa cemetery, Auckland. I have details of all her children.

I can find no sensible dates for Benjamin Palmer’s marriage or death in NZ. There is a Benjamin Palmer listed as a passenger on the vessel “Rotorua”, headed from Auckland to Sydney on 28th July, 1879, so maybe he headed off to make his fortune on the goldfields of Australia.

I am descended from William Walter Palmer, one of Christina’s many brothers. Let me know if there’s any particular information you need-I have information on all Christina’s siblings.


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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 June 09 22:23 BST (UK) »
Hi BPalmer
Welcome to Rootschat, and thank you for joining in order to help me.
You will find the Rootschatters a very friendly and helpful bunch, and a great resource if you are trying to track down anyone anywhere 8)

Your news is very welcome and will be a great help.
I am not related to the Palmers, but was doing this research on behalf of a family friend, who I know will be delighted to hear this latest news. ;D

It's some time since I looked at this family, so will take a while to digest all your references and put them in place. I'll let you know if there's any more information required. :)
Barraclough, Barron, Hunter, Marsden, Pawson, Sowden, Street, Vowless,

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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 September 14 23:40 BST (UK) »
hello there - I am very interested to know all the name of the siblings of Christina Organ nee Stewart/Orr.  She is my great great grandmother.  I have various lots of information but always keen to clarify.  Many thanks Kerry NZ

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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 September 14 03:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Kerry,

Looks like your request has been answered on another thread "Re: Gibraltar. Birth details needed for the son of a UK soldier, born 1840"

Cheers
John B
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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 March 25 03:41 BST (UK) »
I am also related - through sibling Isabella Florence Palmer.  If Brian or Kerry are still monitoring this thread I would love to message with you.

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Re: Benjamin Palmer in Thames
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 30 March 25 11:27 BST (UK) »
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