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Fromelles Missing - George HONEY
« on: Friday 08 May 09 01:34 BST (UK) »
GEORGE HONEY

1901
Port Isaac
Endellion
Cornwall

William J Honey head mar 58 fisherman
Thura wife 50
Henry son s 20 AB merchant sea service
George son 14 fisherman
Gregory son 10
(all born Port Isaac)

RG13/2202/42/21

[George may have older siblings.]

Added later:
Yes, other siblings found on the 1891 census:
John age 15 farm labourer b 1876
Mary A age 13 b 1878
James age 8 b 1883

Added later:
More siblings for George from the 1881:
Joseph 11 b 1870
William 9 b 1872
Susie 7 b 1874

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Re: Fromelles Missing - UK lads in the AIF
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 May 09 05:57 BST (UK) »
Bit more on George Honey

George HONEY

Regimental number 1291
Place of birth Port Isaac, England
Religion Church of England
Occupation Labourer
Address c/o J Bradshaw, 'Beechboro', West Guildford, Western Australia
Marital status Married
Age at embarkation 30
Height 5' 8"
Weight 151 lbs
Next of kin Wife, Mrs Ann Brown Honey, c/o John Bradshaw, 'Beechboro', West Guildford, Western Australia
Previous military service Nil
Enlistment date 19 July 1915
Date of enlistment from Nominal Roll 12 July 1915
Place of enlistment Perth, Western Australia
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 32nd Battalion, D Company
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/49/1
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Adelaide, South Australia, on board HMAT A2 Geelong on 18 November 1915
 The 32nd Bn (Headquarters, Signallers, A, B, C, and D Companies) embarked from Adelaide, South Australia, on two ships, HMAT A2 'Geelong', on 18 November 1915, and HMAT A13 'Katuna', on 24 November 1915. The Embarkation Roll does not distinguish between these ships, and it is therefore not possible from the Embarkation Roll to ascertain on which ship an individual embarked. Those who enlisted in Western Australia embarked at Fremantle (date not recorded).
Rank from Nominal Roll Private
Unit from Nominal Roll 32nd Battalion
Fate Killed in Action 19 July 1916
Place of burial No known grave
Commemoration details V.C. Corner (Panel No 5), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France
Panel number, Roll of Honour,
  Australian War Memorial 120
Other details War service: Egypt, Western Front


Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal

Disembarked Suez, 18 December 1915.

Embarked Alexandria to join the British Expeditionary Force, 17 June 1916; disembarked Marseilles, France, 23 June 1916.

Reported missing, 19 July 1916.

German report, 2 August 1916: 'austr. Sold. Honey, G. 32.I.R. D. Coy. Nr. 1291. am 19.7.16 in Gegen Fromelles gefallen.'

Name appeared on German Death List, 4 November 1916.

Red Cross File No 1360707 has statement from 1379 Pte F. THEW, D Company, 32nd Bn, 1 January 1916: 'I regret to inform you that there is absolutely no doubt as to his death. On enquiries from some of the other men who saw him at the time, I find that unfortunately he was bayonetted by the enemy in the encounter (19-7-16).'

Second statement, 3116 Pte H.C. GRIEVES (patient, No 2 General Hospital, Havre), 19 November1916: 'I knew Honey personally ... He was killed at Fromelles, being bayoneted in the head in the German first line. His body was not recovered. Lieut. [W.A.] WARD of the 32nd battalion (sic), saw this and told me later.'

Third statement, 1231 Pte A.W. CAMERON, 32nd Bn (patient, 1st Southern General Hospital, Birmingham, Moneyhull Section; statement undated): 'On the 19th July, 1916, at Fleurbaix, during a charge, Pte Honey ... was killed between the first enemy trench and our objective. We had taken the first trench and were making for the second line when I saw Honey fall struck by a shell. He fell face downwards, and lay there. He was badly knocked about. We went beyond our objective, but had to retire to our front trench next morning at 6 a.m. We could not get in any of the wounded, nor bury the killed.'

Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal
Sources NAA: B2455, HONEY George
Red Cross file 1360707 

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Re: Fromelles Missing - UK lads in the AIF
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 May 09 06:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks for posting that Moi.  :)

Poor George ...

Now, as he was married, there's a nice possibliity that he had children.  :D There are a couple of WAustralians following these threads, so maybe they will be able to find something.

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Re: Fromelles Missing - George HONEY
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 May 09 07:06 BST (UK) »
George Honey aged 26 and single arrived in Fremantle (departed London 20th Dec 1912) in 1913 on board the Gothic.
Occupation given as farm labourer.

With him as Mrs Annie Honey aged 24.



Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles Missing - George HONEY
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 May 09 07:19 BST (UK) »
George Honey married Ann B. Bradshaw in  the district of Bodmin in the December Quarter of 1912.
5c/139

Mrs Annie Honey's address as next of kin was c/o John Bradshaw, 'Beechboro', West Guildford, Western Australia.

So it seems likely that John Bradshaw was a relative of Annie's.



Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles Missing - George HONEY
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 May 09 07:31 BST (UK) »
There are not very many HONEY children born in Western Australia on the Historical BMD indexes. However, unfortunately the names of the parents are not on the Index!   :-\


Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles Missing - George HONEY
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 May 09 07:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all interested writers. The Honeys had no children in WA. I have found the family of his wife's sister in WA and they MAY have an image of him.  Aiming to find the Cornwall family.
PS All. I am part of the Tim / Sandra group.


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Re: Fromelles Missing - George HONEY
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 May 09 07:52 BST (UK) »
OK Boykett......I'll leave the Australian search then. I had found Ann Brown Honey's grave but that's not going to help find the Cornish family.


Dee  :D  :D
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles Missing - George HONEY
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 May 09 09:06 BST (UK) »
This is what I have on HONEY in my file :)
___________________________
NAME   Honey, George      
SN   Private      
RANK    1291      
UNIT   32 Battalion      
HONOUR   3 Standard Entitlements      
BORN   Port Isaac England      
OCCUPATION   Labourer       
RELIGION   Anglican      
         
DOE   12.07.1915 Perth W. Aust      
AGE   30      
   Residence on embarkation: C/- John Bradshaw West Guildford W.Aust      
         
STATUS   KIA      
DATE   20.07.1916 (19.07.1916)      
AGE   31      
BURIED   Unknown
MEMORIAL   VC Corner Cemetery Memorial panel 5
   AWM 120
DESCRIPTION   Height 5 foot 8 with light hair
   
   
NOTES   Notification from German authorities give date of death as 19.07.1916
   
   Identity disks returned by German authorities
   
NOK   Wife: Anne Brown Honey c/- John Bradshaw Traylor Road Bayswater W. Aust
   Ann Honey died 31.08.1965 aged 79 cremated Karrakatta Wall N/180
   John Bradshaw was Ann Honey's brother
   

   Son: James William Honey born 02.05.1914
   James Honey died 07.03.1951 aged 36 cremated Karrakatta Wall N/180      
   Served WW2 as W22607 5 MD W/C Fixed Defences.  A Honey was NOK      
   


Essex: PLAYLE, WHITEHEAD, PAWSEY, FARRAR, HYMUS
Cornwall: POND, DUNGEY, WILLIAMS
Kent: AUSTIN, ROSER, WILSON
Sussex: ROSER, WILSON