Fromelles Missing - George HONEY

[briant]

There,s a bit on George here,

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,304988.0.html


Regards BrianT

[Tjapaltjarri]

Given that we have no information yet on the quality of DNA extracted from the grave site (if any) have we checked to see if any living relatives of George's mother (through the female line) are traceable?

Has anyone eyeballed George's marriage cert as there are two George Honeys born in Port Isaac and their dates vary between the 1891 census and the 1901 census such that George Honey, son of William and Thirza is shown as 5 on the 1891 cenus and 14 on the 1901 census wheras George son of Mary Honey (widow) is shown as 4 on the 1891 census and does not appear on the 1901 census. There is no corresponding death for the other George Honey in England & Wales BMD that I can see.

I await clarification on this point.

Tjapaltjarri

[Tjapaltjarri]

Further to my last I found on the 1901 census:

 UK Census Collection > 1901 England Census > Essex > Wanstead District > The Merchant Seamens Orphan Asylum

George Honey 14 years b Port Isaac. Cornwall

This George was the son of George and Mary Ann Haynes married Plymouth in 1878.

This George Honey had an older sister Elsie Haynes Honey b ca 1879, married Mar qtr 1901 , an older brother William Haynes Honey b ca 1881 and another older sister Lizzie D Haynes b ca 1884, who is working as a domestic in Port Isaac in 1901 aged 17 years.

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[Tjapaltjarri]

Ah me I see from the other thread above that the connection to the Tabb line is clearly stated.

George Honey's mother was Thirza Tabb who was the daughter of Joseph Tabb and Grace Williams, who married in Falmouth Sep qtr 1843

Grace Williams was one of two twin girls born Bideford to Edward and Mary Williams in 1830 and christened at the Methodist Chapel in October 1830.

Thirza Tabb had no sisters but had two daughters.

She married William John Honey at Bodmon Jun qtr 1872.

Mary Grace Honey b ca 1878 was married - not sure whether she had children.

Susie ca 1874 - no further information

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[Tjapaltjarri]

Further on George Honey's older sister, Susie Honey b. ca. 1874, Port Isaac.  She married in 1895 Ernest Alfred Hoskin (variously on BMD and censuses as Hosking, Hoskins) and had a bevvy of daughters so a good chance of getting a resultant descendant in the female line from these:

Catherine Billing Hoskin b ca 1898, Bodmin * on GR*
Mary Bradon Hoskin b ca 1899, Bodmin  *on GR*
Susan Hoskin 1901 (1 month old on 1901 census)
Liza Hoskin ca 1901 (aged 10 on 1911 census)
Ada Hoskin ca 1908
Rebecca Hoskin ca 1910.

possibly more - Susie Hoskin was only 37 on the 1911 census. I haven't looked yet.

Best,

Tjapaltjarri

[Tjapaltjarri]

Just to say, since I don't seem to get any response from anyone on the subject of Fromelles missing, that I've made contact with someone whose cousins are descended in the female line from George Honey's sister Susie Honey.

I will pm Sarah, but without any clear indication of what still remains to be done with trying to contact relatives at this point in time, and no response to my messages, my enthusiasm for assisting in this worthwhile project is rapidly starting to wane.

Best,

Tjapaltjarri

[majm]

Hi Tjapaltarri,

I'm still interested.... actually both OH and I are still interested... But like you we are disappointed that no one seems to be posting on RChat threads for those lads who were born "overseas" but enlisted in Australia ....

Just Moi.

[Tjapaltjarri]

I think that a lot of the discussion on the subject has gone over to the WW1 discussion group on 'theinvisionzone'

I tried to join up but heard nothing so I'd better check my spam filter for messages :-) !!

Best,

Thapaltjarri

[fedelmar]

Hi Guys,

Yes the work still continues and things are progressing.   We still keep an eye on these 'overseas' chaps here but have recently been working very hard on some of the Australian born men so unfortunately our focus has been tied up elsewhere.

Tjapaltjarri, we are always extremely interested to hear from any descendants and most certainly we'd be keen to hear from the descendants of George Honey's sister.   We currently have contact with another of Honey's descendants but newly discovered family members are always very welcome.

And we are still very appreciative of the work everyone here is doing.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact us directly at fromelles@gmail.com

Bright Blessings,
Sandra (and Tim)