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Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« on: Friday 08 May 09 00:15 BST (UK) »
NAME   James, Arthur Mossop         
SN   689         
RANK    Private         
UNIT   30 Battalion         
HONOUR   Standard entitlements         
BORN   Paddington London         
OCCUPATION   Clerk         
RELIGION   Anglican         
           
DOE   08.02.1915 Liverpool NSW         
AGE   25         
   Residence on embarkation: 'Alicia' Railway Street Epping NSW         
           
STATUS   KIA         
DATE   20.07.1916 (19.07.1916)         
AGE   28         
BURIED   Unknown         
MEMORIAL   VC Corner Cemetery memorial panel 2         
   AWM 117         
           
DESCRIPTION   5 foot 3 1/4 light hair         
           
NOTES   Identity disk returned by German authorities         
           
NOK   Father: Albert James deceased         
           
   Mother: Susan Ashton         
   240 Guinness Bldgs Draycott Avenue Chelsea London
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Re: Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 May 09 04:50 BST (UK) »
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Arthur JAMES
Regimental number 689 Place of birth Paddington, London, England

Other Names Arthur Mossop
School Cook's Ground, Chelsea, London, England Age on arrival in Australia 24 Religion Church of ngland Occupation Clerk Address 'Alicia', Railway Street, Epping, Sydney, New South Wales
Marital status Single Age at embarkation 25 Height 5' 8.25" Weight 136 lbs

Next of kin Mother, Mrs Susan Ashton, 227 Guinness Buildings, Chelsea, London, England

Previous military service Served for 2 months in the 48th Canadians Royal Scots [?]; left the district.

Enlistment date 8 July 1915 Place of enlistment Liverpool, New South Wales Rank on enlistment Private Unit name 30th Battalion, C Company AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/47/1
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A72 Beltana on 9 November 1915 Fate Killed in Action 20 July 1916 Place of death or wounding The Somme, France Age at death 28 Age at death from cemetery records 28 Place of burial No known grave
Commemoration details V.C. Corner (Panel No 2), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France
Panel number, Roll of Honour,Australian War Memorial 117 Miscellaneous information from

cemetery records Parents: Albert JAMES and Sarah Susan ASHTON (formerly JAMES), 240 Guinness Buildings, Draycott Avenue, Chelsea, London, England

Other details War service: Egypt, Western FrontEmbarked Sydney, 9 November 1915; disembarked Suez, 11 December 1915.Admitted to 3rd Field Ambulance, Rel el Kebir, 15 February 1916 (sprained ankle); discharged to unit, 16 February 1916.Found guilty, 22 March 1916, of using improper language to an NCO: awarded 3 days' punishment drill.Admitted to 8th Field Ambulance, Ferry Post, 15 April 1916 (diarrhoea); discharged to and rejoined unit, 19 April 1916.Admitted to 15th Field Ambulance, Ferry Post, 6 May 1916 (accidentally injured, left arm, while practising bomb throwing), and transferred same day to No 2 Australian Casualty Clearing Station; discharged to duty, and rejoined Bn, 8 May 1916.Admitted to 8th Field Ambulance, 17 May 1916 (old bomb wound, left arm), and transferred same day to No 2 Australian Casualty Clearing Station; to No 1 Australian Stationary Hospital, Ismailia, 19 May 1916; discharged to and rejoined Bn, 3 June 1916.Embarked Alexandria to join the British Expeditionary Force, 16 June 1916; disembarked Marseilles, France, 23 June 1916.

Reported missing, 20 July 1916.

Note on Form B103: 'Identity Disc received from Germany. No particulars were afforded except that Soldier was deceased. May now be reported "KILLED IN ACTION" 20/7/16.'

German report, 2 August 1916: 'austr. Sold. James, Arthur C. 30. Batt. austr. Nr. 689. am 19.7 in Gegend Fromelles gefallen.'

Red Cross File No 1420605 has statement from 741 Pte F.W. RAYSMITH, 30th Bn, 28 August 1916: 'I knew James; his initials were A, and he was in C.C. and his number was 689. He was wounded on the back of the shoulder (left) on the 19th. July, at Fleurbaix, and was in No. 8 Stationary [Hospital] at Boulogne with me afterwards and went to England from such hospital on the 21st. July. I am quite certain of the above facts.' Note by interviewer: 'One of the most intelligent and careful witnesses I have ever met.'

Second statement, 759 Pte F. SCHOLES, Machine Gun Section, 30th Bn (patient, No 6 General Hospital, Rouen), 7 December 1916: Informant was told by Pte. C.R. Daws of C Co., 9 Pl. [cannot be identified], that he was with A. James when he was killed. He was shot in the stomach. It was on the 19th July at Fromelles between the German 1st and 2nd lines.'

Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal
Sources NAA: B2455, JAMES Arthur
Red Cross file 1420605 
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Re: Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 May 09 09:16 BST (UK) »
Arthur Mossop James bn Jun qtr 1888 Paddington 1a 24

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Re: Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 May 09 09:36 BST (UK) »
Some confusion over surname perhaps - in 1891 the family is at 18 Marlboro Sq, Chelsea
Albert James Ashton  H  Mar  28  Postman  bn Kent Canterbury
Sarah Susan Ashton  W  Mar  28  bn Chelsea
Arthur James Ashton  Son  3  bn Paddington
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Re: Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 May 09 09:49 BST (UK) »
I double checked ... his surname is JAMES.  First and second names are 'Arthur Mossop'.

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Re: Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 May 09 11:52 BST (UK) »
I double checked ... his surname is JAMES.  First and second names are 'Arthur Mossop'.

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Sorry, I meant that I wonder if when they filling in the census there was some confusion over surname.  I had a quick look and couldn't see a birth reg for Arthur Ashton in 1888 +/- 2 years (but I was in a rush this morning  ;))

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Re: Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 May 09 13:27 BST (UK) »
The birth of Arthur Mossop James was registered June 1988. His mother Sarah Susan James married September 1988 - presumably to Albert James Ashton. Unfortunately the 4th name for that page is missing from FreeBMD. That explains the different surnames.
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Re: Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 May 09 14:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you L, that makes a bit more sense of things!

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Re: Fromelles Missing - Arthur Mossop James
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 May 09 06:26 BST (UK) »
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