Elizabeth Fleming help please

[j1mbr0wn]

I wonder if any one could help with the father of Elizabeth Fleming b1845 married David Gray Usher in West Derby Lancashire in 1863.

They had several children in Liverpool 1864 - 1870.

Finding it very difficult to find this lady.

Thank you

Jim

[gortonboy]

HI,,CANT HELP WITH FATHER AS I CANNOT ACCESS 1851 CENSUS FOR LANCS,,,,,BUT,,,,,,,,THE ELIZABETH FLEMING WHO MARRIED A DAVID USHER WAS LISTED AS BEING BORN IN SCOTLAND,,IS THAT CORRECT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW,,,IF SO ,,IN THE 1861 CENSUS AN ELIZABETH FLEMING IS LIVING IN THE BEDDEN FAMILY HOME AT 66 ATHOL STREET.LIVERPOOL. SHE IS A SERVANT, BORN 1845 IN SCOTLAND.  COULD BE HER. IF SOMEONE COULD TRACK HER BACK TO 1851 YOU MIGHT GET THE FATHER.  REGARDS,,MIKE,

[suzard]

Hi,

I too think in 1861  elizabeth fleming is a servant to john and jane beddows (provision dealer) in athol st Liverpool
RG9 2657 148 30

no sign of her in 1851 -probably she was still in scotland - and as we don't know what part of scotland she was from, it may be necessary to get marriage details for name of father

Suz

[jan117]

Hi Jim
Found Elizabeth aged 5 on the 1851 census visiting a family called Springthorpe in Southwark, Surrey
Robert Flemming   visiter          1822 bn  Tweed, Berickshire, Scotland
Elizabeth       "       visiter          1827 "    Tweed, Berickshire, Scotland
Isabella         "       visiter           1817      Tweed, Berickshire, Scotland   
Robert           "       son              1849      Tweed, Berickshire, Scotland
Elizabeth       "       dau             1846       Tweed, Berickshire, Scotland
Hope this is of help
Jan

[j1mbr0wn]

Thank you for you're help, the 1881 census says that Elizabeth was born in Carmyle, Lanark, Scotland.

I have the marriage as 1863 in West Derby, but this was using FreeBMD and you get any parent details.

Jan although the birth year is correct the birth place isn't the same and i should have written that in my original post, sorry.

I have checked ScotlandsPeople for the 1851 Census and i get 25 results this is why i was looking for the marriage details hopefully to get the father.

Thanks everyone for you're help, anything else would be gratefully received

Jim

[Ru]

Hi Jim, just found your query although you may already have the answer by now:

Married to David Usher, 21 Jun 1863 St Aiden, Kirkdale

Elizabeth Fleming, minor of 17 Shadwell St, Liverpool d/o John Fleming, blacksmith

Best wishes
Ruth
Fleming one-name study