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Whitehaven
« on: Thursday 07 May 09 22:52 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I have listed as an address on a 1923 death certificate '21 Thwaite Villa, Whitehaven'  would it still be standing?  He actually died at Blencathra Sanatorium does anyone have a photograph of the sanatorium that I could get a copy of?
Any help is gratefully received.
Karen

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Re: Whitehaven
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 May 09 23:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Karen

Welcome to Roots, here is a photo from a distance, will see if I can find a better one

http://www.institutions.org.uk/pictures/sanatoria/blencathra_sanatorium.htm

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Re: Whitehaven
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 May 09 23:16 BST (UK) »
Ricky (1954 - 2010)

Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, <br />Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder<br />Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Whitehaven
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 May 09 23:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Ricky,

Thank you for those sites - all helps.

Karen


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Re: Whitehaven
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 May 09 08:39 BST (UK) »
I find elsewhere that Thwaite Villas was in part of Whitehaven known as Arrowthwaite http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CUMBERLAND/2006-11/1164754547  This related to mines deaths in 1931

Looking at my 1923 map, I see an area labelled Arrowthwaite Villas.

To relate it to this aerial photo http://tinyurl.com/qefv82 the area at that time was the east side of High Road, both sides of Central Road and both sides of the central part of Hill Top Road.  The houses appear to be unchanged.

To the north west of this area is/was Haig Pit which remains open as a museum (free!) http://www.haigpit.com/
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Re: Whitehaven
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 May 09 08:57 BST (UK) »
Somebody called Robert Routledge Maccreadie was registered at Thwaite Villas Whitehaven 1922-26 but I can't make out the circumstances and my adobe reader not very good on this m/c. (googled ).
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 May 09 09:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Karen

I was actually born at 28a Thwaitville, Kells in 1962.  

Number 21a will still be standing, as are most of the original houses.  If I remember rightly, they were built as pre-fabricated huts for  WW1, then used as miners cottages.  Most of them have been modernised now, but if ever you visit it, I would advise not taking your car up there!!  The residents have been trying for years to get the council to adopt the road and footpaths.  I think it's the only road around here that has been left in such a state, and not taken over yet.  They have a committee and have fund-raised to get some of the money together, but so far nothing has been done.

My dad built some new houses on Thwaiteville during the sixties.  They even had their own shop (Delines) in a small bungalow at one end of the road.  There were also two other shops at the bottom of the road opposite each other.  None of them are there now.  

Thwaiteville is located directly opposite the opening to Haig Pit.  I remember the pit whistle going off for shift changes when I was little, and seeing all the miners standing in the enormous bus shelter, covered in coal-dust waiting for the bus home.  

One of the shops, over the road from Thwaiteville was Basket House.  I'm not sure if the baskets once made there were made for the pit, or for fishing.  I'm sure somebody else might put me right about the pre-fab houses and the baskets.  If you contacted the record office in Whitehaven, somebody there may be able to give you more information about Thwaiteville.

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Re: Whitehaven
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 May 09 13:15 BST (UK) »
Hi GeoffE, Bob & Rosemary,

Thank you all so much for the information - brilliant.  I will one day get up there and have a look.

Does anyone know if there are records relating to workers at Haig Pit about 1922/23?  I'm looking for info on William Richard Johns born 1884, St Just, Cornwall.  He married in 1917 to a Mary Williams also from Cornwall.  He was a Tin Miner before going up to Threlkeld sometime after his marriage.  Was the coal industry in better shape than tin at this time?  Would you have had to work at the pit for a while before getting one of these cottages?

Thank you all once again for your help.
Regards Karen

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Re: Whitehaven
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 May 09 13:56 BST (UK) »
You could try Durham Mining Museum at www.dmm.org.uk which certainly has all deaths in british pits or you could try haigh directly on Geoff's link. I had an uncle paid the wages there but not that long ago.
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