Fromelles missing - Horace Robinson

[Spidermonkey]

1901;
2 Galley Hill Terr
John Robinson  H Mar  48  Time keeper  Hants Wouldham
Mary E Robinson  W  Mar  43  Hants Bincted?
Percy J Robinson  Son  18  Hants Bincted?
Henry J Robinson  Son  16  Hants Aldershot
Ethel E Robinson  Dau  13  Kent Chatham
William F Robinson  Son  12  Ireland Carragh
Olive M Robinson  Dau  10  Hants Aldershot
Ida Robinson  Dau  8  Surrey Woking
HOrace F Robinson  Son  5  Kent Chatham
Agnes Robinson  Dau  3  Kent Swanscombe
Emily G Robinson  Dau  1  Kent Swanscombe

RG13; Piece: 706; Folio: 51; Page: 38
I wonder if the family had military connection before Horace joined up?

[majm]

Hi Everyone,

On his enlistment papers as a volunteer in the Australian Army (AIF), 1312 Horace Frederick Robinson's next of Kin was his Dad,  John, and the address for John Robinson was 2 Galley Hill Terrace, London Road, Greenhill KEW.

Just Moi

[nanny jan]

Possible marriage for parents:

John Robinson  JunQ 1881   Alton   2c   295          (FreeBMD)

Bride:  Mary Elizabeth Simpson

Alton registration district would cover births in Binstead and  East/West Worldham



Nanny Jan

[majm]

This is info about Horace's brother  NOTICE THE AUSTRALIAN ADDRESS
Henry James ROBINSON
Regimental number   747
Religion   Church of England
Occupation   Loco fireman
Address   'Roslyn' Cowper Street, Granville, New South Wales
Marital status   Married
Age at embarkation   30
Next of kin   Wife, Mrs Catherina Mary Robinson, 'Roslyn' Cowper Street, Granville, New South Wales
Enlistment date   13 July 1915
Rank on enlistment   Private
Unit name   30th Battalion, C Company

AWM Embarkation Roll number   23/47/1
Embarkation details   Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A72 Beltana on 9 November 1915
Rank from Nominal Roll   Private
Unit from Nominal Roll   30th Battalion
Fate   Killed in Action
Place of burial   Bethlehem Farm West Cemetery (Row F, Grave No. 9), Messines, Belgium
Panel number, Roll of Honour,
  Australian War Memorial   117

INFO on Horace will show SAME ADDRESS, please see my next post.

Just Moi

ADD THESE TWO POSTS ARE SOURCED FROM THIS LINK http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showUnit?unitCode=INF30CC

[majm]

Horace Frederick ROBINSON
Regimental number   1312
Place of birth   Gillingham, Kent, England
Religion   Church of England
Occupation   Clerk
Address   'Roslyn', Cowper Street, Granville, New South Wales
Marital status   Single
Age at embarkation   20
Height   5' 7.5"
Weight   140 lbs
Next of kin   Father, John Robinson, 2 Galley Hill Terrace, London Road, Greenhill, Kew, England
Previous military service   Nil
Enlistment date   20 July 1915
Place of enlistment   Liverpool, New South Wales
Rank on enlistment   Private
Unit name   30th Battalion, C Company

AWM Embarkation Roll number   23/47/1
Embarkation details   Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A72 Beltana on 9 November 1915
Rank from Nominal Roll   Private
Unit from Nominal Roll   30th Battalion
Fate   Killed in Action 20 July 1916
Place of burial   No known grave
Commemoration details   V.C. Corner (Panel No 2), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France
Panel number, Roll of Honour,
  Australian War Memorial   117
Other details   War service: Egypt, Western Front
Embarked Sydney, 9 November 1915; disembarked Suez, 11 December 1915.
Embarked Alexandria to join the British Expeditionary Force, 16 June 1916; disembarked Marseilles, France, 23 June 1916.
Posted missing, 19/20 July 1916.
Identification disc received from Germany. No particulars afforded except that the soldier is deceased. Now, 13 March 1917, to be reported killed in action, 20 July 1916.
German report, 27 September 1919, 'austr. Sold. Robinson, H. J. C. 30. Batt. Nr. 1312. am 19.7.16. in Gegend Fromelles gefallen.'
Note, Red Cross File No 2330708: 'The above name appeared on German death list dated 4-11-16.'
Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal
Sources   NAA: B2455, ROBINSON Horace Frederick
Red Cross file 2330708

[Spidermonkey]

Playing around with the free search on 1911 census, it appears that Olive, Ida, Agnes and Emily are still with John and Mary Elizabeth in Kent.  There is also a Harold, which may be a mistranscription of Horace as the ages seem to match up.

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Olive M Robinson mar James Coffee  Jun qtr 1913  Dartford (2a 1097).

Possible daughter born in 1927

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Ida Robinson mar Frederick W Twocock Mar qtr 1914 Dartford 2a 911

Possible son born 1915 - Frederick Twocock

[majm]

NSW marriage for Horace's brother perhaps 
1843/1912  ROBINSON  HENRY J  TREACY  CATHERINE M  (at) GRANVILLE
(so if this is Horace's brother, then perhaps both the brothers came to Australia before 1912)

EDITED TO ADD
Have not found arrival in NSW, at least two named Horace, but plenty of H Robinson. Perhaps someone familiar with early 20th century migration to Aus may have clues