Marriage look up

[WYNN]

Just looking at all the info. If William L was married to Clara in 1910 census and his birthdate is 1896/1895 ....was this possible to be married so young at this time?

Wynn

[avm228]

Just looking at all the info. If William L was married to Clara in 1910 census and his birthdate is 1896/1895 ....was this possible to be married so young at this time?

Wynn

Sorry, I wasn't very clear before (have now amended) - it was in the 1920 census that we first saw Clara.

This may be their marriage (from www.italiangen.org):

W SCHWARTZMAN
Clara SCHKURMAN
10 Jan 1920, Manhattan

[avm228]

Possible death for Clara from the Social Security Death Index (matching the location of that found earlier for William):

Clara SCHWARTZMAN
Birth: 21 October 1897
Death: Jun 1986 Pequannock, Morris, New Jersey

[shellyesq]

 (note that the WWI & WWII Draft Registration Cards do not mean that he enlisted or had to serve in the military - all men of a certain age were required to register for the draft)

I didn't know that!

Here's some information about the draft registration cards that might be helpful:
http://genealogy.about.com/od/records/p/wwi_draft.htm
http://genealogy.about.com/od/records/p/wwii_draft.htm

(I can't get William's WWI card to open, either.)

Also, another thing to keep in mind:  the town given on the Social Security Death Index as last residence or last benefit is not necessarily where the person died.  http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm

[shellyesq]

This may be their marriage (from www.italiangen.org):

W SCHWARTZMAN
Clara SCHKURMAN
10 Jan 1920, Manhattan

I found a naturalization petition for a Clara Schwartzman, nee Schkurman, who was married to a Wolf Schwartzman and they were married on this date, so I think these aren't the ones we're looking for.  I didn't find a good match on that index, so maybe they married elsewhere.

[WYNN]

So am I right in thinking that Clara's maiden name was NOT Schukerman as first thought?

I'm now going to look up Morris County. I would love to see where they lived. There may be some old photographs somewhere.

Wynn

[shellyesq]

So am I right in thinking that Clara's maiden name was NOT Schukerman as first thought?

No, it doesn't look like it.  If you were so inclined, you could order William and/or Clara's original Social Security application, which would likely have their parents' names on it.  The fee is $27.  If you go to rootsweb.com, search for them on the Social Security Death Index.  After you get the right result, on the far right, there is a link that says SS-5 letter & that will generate a letter to the Social Security Administration.  You can print that out & send it with the fee.  I'm not sure how the procedure works if you're outside of the US, so if that's the case, maybe one of our knowledgeable folks can pop in and help you with that.

[avm228]

Perhaps William and Clara married in New Jersey - they were there by 1920, and the two children they had in that census were born in NJ.

Their son Charles ("Charles H." in 1920)  may have died as Charles Schwartzman in Jan 1947 per the SSDI - in which case his birthdate was given as 19 May 1918.

Anna

[WYNN]

Is William L 's son Charles N or Charles H?

Wynn