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Re: James Vickress, died 1852 Shoreditch, lookup please!
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 17:32 GMT (UK) »
Tha James Vickress you mention is another guy, but not relarted to me.  But Vickress is so rare my tree record every persopn worldwide who ever used the name.

The witnesses on the 1815 marriage between James Vickress and Ann Hulseburg at Simon and Elizabeth Morris. I do not know who they are. How can we leverage this?
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Re: James Vickress, died 1852 Shoreditch, lookup please!
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Well I am as stumped as you are, he is obviously there somewhere under another variation on his surname
Witnesses names no help

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Re: James Vickress, died 1852 Shoreditch, lookup please!
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi

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On the 1851 census it reports he is born in Middlesex, and I assume this means London

The first suggestion is to never assume.

Being born in the county of Middlesex meant just that. In 1851 London consisted of what is now known as the square mile of the City of London. London has spread out since then. By 1889 officially it swallowed up surrounding areas of the counties of Middlesex (which surrounded the city on 3 sides and across the river Thames to its south areas of the county of Surrey and Kent) and became the county of London. In 1965 it swallowed the rest of Middlesex, a larger part of Surrey and parts of the county of Essex and to a far lessere extent Hertfordshire to become Greater London.

This map of the counties of England will allow you to centre down on Middlesex (and the small densley built up area of the City of London in 1851 so you can see Middlesex and all the parishes it comprised of.

http://maps.familysearch.org/


P H Reaney 'A Dictionary of Surnames'

Gives the origins of Vickress with Vicarage, Vickerage and Vickridge 'servant of the vicary' giving an early example as Hugh Vicaries 1332.


Where have you found James on the 1851 census?

On the 1841 census adult ages, those over 15, usually had their age rounded down to the nearest 5. The answer yes to born in county on that census can be unreliable.


As you have 'every Vickress recorded on your tree' who was

Burial
31st October 1836 St Leonard Shoreditch
Benjamin Vickress aged 60 Workhouse

as he was living close to James


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Re: James Vickress, died 1852 Shoreditch, lookup please!
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 23:35 GMT (UK) »
I also found that death record and I keep it along with a bunch of misc. records that do not match any other record.  So my assumption to date is this is mispelt and should be Vickers. 

Perhaps that's a possible father,,, good thought.

As for the 1851 its on the page before his son james Vickress (spelt correctly).  My his father is recorded as James Vichughe (at least on ancestry)

Gotta run,,,

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Re: James Vickress, died 1852 Shoreditch, lookup please!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 April 11 17:17 BST (UK) »
At your suggestion I relooked at Benjamin Vickress who died close to James Vickress in 1836.  He died in the workhouse.  So my assumption is that he would not related to my folks living close or he would be living with them.  Is that a valid assumption?  I can find no links to Benajmin Vickress and my family. 

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 April 11 18:01 BST (UK) »
Hi


Workhouse infirmaries acted in some respects as local hospitals. As the century worn on they developed and by the time of the start of the National Health system in 1948 many became national health hospitals.


http://www.nhshistory.net/poor_law_infirmaries.htm


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Re: James Vickress, died 1852 Shoreditch, lookup please!
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 May 16 16:57 BST (UK) »
There is an entry on FamilySearch for a James Vickers (sic), born 26 Feb 1787, and baptised 8 years later on 19 March 1795  in St. Leonard's, Shoreditch (in Middlesex), the son of Nathaniel and Elizabeth.

A possible brother called Augustus Emanuel Vickers (sic) was baptised at Saint Anne's Soho, in Westminster. DoB is 12 February 1801, baptised 29 March 1801.

If the surname Vickers is a corruption of Vickress (or vice versa) it certainly seem either variation was used consistently throughout the years by the various individuals. The first candidate, however, seems a likely candidate to be the same James Vickress who died in 1852 unless another alternative can be found.

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Re: James Vickress, died 1852 Shoreditch, lookup please!
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 May 16 18:48 BST (UK) »
Nice to hear from you and I trust your search is going well.  Please post those new Vickress Hereford documents to the Vickress web site or email them to me. 

 The James Vickress born in 1787 and baptized in 1795 is not my guy.  I thought he was but other evidence supplied by others proved that to my satisfaction.   Hence I am still stumped on how to get by this roadblock.  Any suggestions would be appreciated as I have given up on this for now.

On my mothers side I am back to before 1066 into France with some proof.  Church records back to 1600 approx., then books, land records, visitation books, and documented family trees.  Mom at least came from money and some minor titleage. It seems incredible and who knows if it true.  I am sure that those writing these family trees always wanted to confirm their roots to the King.  But for now I believe I am related to King Henry I.  Is that cool or what.  Evidence is posted to the Vickress web site.
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