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Offline DavidGreenall110

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Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« on: Wednesday 06 May 09 15:19 BST (UK) »
OK, I've given up for now but how does somebody fancy a challenge?

I've been trying in vain to find any record or mentions of my GGG Grandparents Charles and Diana Death. Some of you may have seen my previous post regarding this subject and a big thanks to those that have tried to help.

A spanner has been thrown in the works that has sent me into a tailspin, because there is no birth certificate for my GG Grandfather I ordered one of his brothers which give the parents as Charles Death a Boot and Shoe Maker in Norwich and Diana Smith (an easy name to trace!!!). However, I then found a Baptism record for my GG Grandfather which gave the same information on the Father but for the mother it just said "France".

There is no marriage or birth records that I can find for Chas and Di, the census records don't help either as Diana is spelt many ways and she never appears with Charles and to add to all that, she is from that well known town of "NK" Not Known although it does suggest Oxfordshire!

There's always been talk in the family that said the name was French as in De Ath (of Ath) in what is now Belgium.

Is there anybody that can shed some light on this?

David  ??? ??? ???
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Re: Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 17:35 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

I am sure LOTS of people would like a challenge :)
Could you please provide some more info;

You G/grandfathers name and dob approx.
Charles and Di's dob and census refs .

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Re: Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 17:42 BST (UK) »
Hi David

You haven't mentioned any dates.  Please could you provide a link to any previous threads so that Rootschatters can see what is already known about this family?

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 17:45 BST (UK) »
Hi David  :)

Here's a link to your related thread on Charles & Diana:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,372642.msg2467043.html#msg2467043

Kind regards
Gaie

Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE


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Re: Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 18:20 BST (UK) »
 I dont think this has been found yet ???

Christening;

Sophia Death
14 July 1839
Long Melford, Suffolk
Parents, Charles and Diana ( extracted)

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Re: Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 18:38 BST (UK) »

I see you have been unable to find Josephs birth rego. abt 1847, Norwich, Norfolk.

There is this curious one;
Joseph DEATH
June 1848
Cosford
12 338

Click on the name Cosford and you will see there is a problem with it.

Trish

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Re: Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 18:59 BST (UK) »
We have Diana and children 1851 Census and think this is possibly Charles/Diana 1841 :)

1841 Census                      HO107/1036/16/Rattlesden

Rattlesden, Suffolk

Elizabeth DEATH, 55, widow
Diana, 30
Charles, 25, butcher
Robert, 20, butcher         al born in county

Trish

EDIT this appears to be wrong as there is a baptism for this Diana  ( submitted) to parents Francis/Frank  DEATH and Elizabeth GOOCH.

THESE STILL COULD BE CHARLES parents.

Too late for me/off to bed,

cheers,
trish
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Re: Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 20:06 BST (UK) »

I see you have been unable to find Josephs birth rego. abt 1847, Norwich, Norfolk.

There is this curious one;
Joseph DEATH
June 1848
Cosford
12 338

Click on the name Cosford and you will see there is a problem with it.

Trish



Trish,

Page number is transcribed incorrectly, should be 358 which fits in the expected range.

Deryck

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Re: Help! Anybody fancy a challenge?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 20:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish, Gaie and Anna,

Joseph was born 8th April 1847 in Norwich, I have no idea when Charles was born, the 1851 census gives Dianas year of birth as 1813.

Charles could be part of the Rattlesden Death's but I can't be 100% sure on that, Diana's name is spelt in different ways on the 1851 and 1871 censuses Diana and Dinah. I don't have the references unfortunately.

David
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