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Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 06 May 09 13:35 BST (UK) »
NAME   Ross, James Hugh         
SN   1216         
RANK    Corporal         
UNIT   29 Bn         
HONOUR   Entitlements         
BORN   Stirling Scotland c1893         
OCCUPATION   Grocer         
RELIGION   Presbyterian         
            
DOE   12.07.1915 Melbourne Vic         
AGE   22         
            
            
STATUS   KIA         
DATE   19.07.1916         
AGE   23         
BURIED   Unknown         
MEMORIAL   VC Corner Cemetery memorial panel ?         
   AWM 116         
            
DESCRIPTION   5 foot 9 1/2 with brown hair         
   One gold tooth upper jaw         
            
NOTES   Identity disk returned by German authorities         
            
   Arrived in Australia age 20         
            
   On the AWM Honour Roll circular another reference is given:         
   Mrs J Clark 9 Hillington Gardens Cardonald Glasgow Scotland.   
      
NOK   Father: James A Ross                     
   12 Cunningham Street Northcote Victoria                     
   Possibly died Northcote 1943 Aged 70 Reg No 12291 (parents Daniel & Cath Ross)                     
                        
   Mother: Alice T Ross                     

   Sister: Isabella W Ross                     

   Sister: Elizabeth R Ross

   Brother?: Agnes T Ross

   Sister: Alice W T Ross



Thought I'd follow Silvery's lead and start a separate thread for James Hugh Ross. 

The original thread is
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,379339.0.html

I've just found a  possible marriage and a death in Victoria which might help......

Alice Waddell Thomson Ross married Edmond Frederick West in 1935
Ref = 2280

Alice Waddell Thomson West aged 69 died in 1970 in Melbourne.
Ref = 3248
Parents = James Alexander Ross and Alice Waddell Thomson.

Agnes Thomson Ross married  Harold Clements in 1939.
Ref = 11069

There's also a death for Isabella Waddell Martyn aged 70 in Pres in 1962.
Ref = 8664
Same parents.


The death certificates could be helpful.  :-\

Victorian death certificates usually list children.


Dee

Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 13:54 BST (UK) »
I've found the death of Elizabeth R. as well......

Elizabeth Ryan Russell died aged 28 in Northcote in 1925.
Ref = 2852
Parents listed as Jas Alex Ross and Alice Waddell Thomson.


Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 14:03 BST (UK) »
Isabel Waddell Ross married Rupert Samuel Martyn in 1919.
Ref = 1312

I've found the birth of a son, but won't post it on here as there's the possibility he is still living.


I'll PM it to Sandra.


Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 23:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks heaps Dee ...

Bright Blessings
Sandra
Essex: PLAYLE, WHITEHEAD, PAWSEY, FARRAR, HYMUS
Cornwall: POND, DUNGEY, WILLIAMS
Kent: AUSTIN, ROSER, WILSON
Sussex: ROSER, WILSON


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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 May 09 03:00 BST (UK) »
From the Electoral Rolls.....

In 1919 James Alexander Ross was living at 99 Arthurton Rd, Northcote Victoria. He was a gardener.
Listed with him was wife Isabel Waddel Ross (Home Duties)and daughter Elizabeth Ryan Ross. (Sales)

In 1924 James Alexander and Isabel Waddell Ross are still at the same address. Daughters Alice Thomson Ross and Agnes Thomson Ross are also at that address. Both are given as machinists.

1931 is interesting. Not only are James Alexander and Isabel Waddell Ross are still at the same address,but as well as daughter Alice Thomson Ross being there, there's also an Edith Ross and a John Ross. Edith is a machinist,  and John is in Sales.

1936 sees James Alexander Ross still at the same address in Northcote and still working as a gardener. The only other one that appears at that address is Agnes Thomson Ross.


Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 May 09 04:25 BST (UK) »
The marriage of Elizabeth Ryan Ross to Harry Russell took place in 1922.
Ref = 5116

In 1924 Elizabeth Ryan Russell (Home Duties) was at 137 Harold St, Northcote, Victoria. At the same address was Harry Russell, joiner.


Dee

Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 May 09 04:49 BST (UK) »
In 1919 and in 1924 Isobel Waddell Martyn (Home Duties) was living at 12 Lennox St, Northcote, Victoria. At the same address was her husband Rupert Samuel Martyn, flock machinist.

By 1931 the couple had moved, address now given as Astor, Morris Rd, Upwey, Ferntree Gully, Victoria. Rupert's occupation now state as labourer. Same details for 1936.


Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 May 09 04:55 BST (UK) »
Alice Thomson West (Home Duties) and husband Edmond Frederick West (Sales) are at 2 Gordon Ave, St Kilda Central, Victoria, in 1936.

There's also an Emily May West, dressmaker, at that address.


Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 May 09 10:47 BST (UK) »
I think the family arrived in Melbourne aboard the ship Makarini that departed London on 5th May 1914......with the exception of the father James A Ross.

Listed are
Mrs A Ross 42 Home Duties
Miss I Ross 22 Dressmaker
Mr J Ross 20 Ditto  ???
Miss E Ross 17 Waitress
Miss A Ross 16 Ditto
Miss E Ross 8
Master J Ross 5

All from Scotland.

Maybe, like many other families, the father came on an earlier ship to find a home for the family...... :-\


Dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk