Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross COMPLETED

[deeiluka]

Thee's a James A Ross of the right age arriving arriving on board the Commonwealth in 1911. However, his occupation is listed as miner....but in 1901 in Scotland he was grocer. 

There was also a Mr J Ross, age unknown arriving on board the Malwa in 1912.....but no occupation given for him.


Dee

[deeiluka]

It looks like James Hugh Ross's mother Alice Waddell Ross died aged 79 at Elwood in 1950.
Ref = 3840

Her parents were James Thomson and Mary Brown.


I wonder where she was in 1936 when she didn't seem to be listed with husband James Alexander?

Maybe she did what my grandmother did....and went back "home" for a visit.   


Dee

[majm]

Hi All,

James Hugh ROSS   Regimental number   1216   Place of birth   Stirling, Scotland  Religion Presbyterian
Occupation Grocer  Address   48 McLachlan Street, Northcote, Victoria     Marital status   Single
Age at embarkation   21  Height 5' 9.5"   Weight   158 lbs  Next of kin Father, James Alex Ross, 48 McLachlan Street, Northcote, Victoria  Previous military service Nil  Enlistment date 12 July 1915
Place of enlistment   Melbourne, Victoria  Rank on enlistment   Corporal  Unit name   29th Battalion, D Company   AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/46/1 Embarkation details   Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A11 Ascanius on 10 November 1915 Rank from Nominal Roll Private Unit from Nominal Roll 29th Battalion Fate Killed in Action 19 July 1916 Age at death from cemetery record 23  Place of burial   No known grave  Commemoration details V.C. Corner (Panel No I), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France  Panel number, Roll of Honour, Australian War Memorial 116
Miscellaneous information from cemetery records   Parents: James and alice ROSS, 99 Arthurton Road, Northcote, Victoria. Native of Scotland      Other details   War service: Egypt, Western Front
Embarked Melbourne, 10 November 1915; disembarked Suez, 7 December 1915. Embarked Alexandria to join the British Expeditionary Force, 16 June 1915; disembarked Marseilles, France, 23 June 1916.
Posted missing, 19/20 July 1916.
'Identification Disc received from Germany. No particulars afforded except the soldier is deceased. To be reported as KILLED IN ACTION, FRANCE 19.7.16.' on the authority of Assistant Adjutant General, ANZAC Section, from War Office.
A handwritten note on the bottom of the B.103 notes, 'buried in Fromelles sheet 36 N 22 B & D'.
Red Cross File No 2360509 has statement from 1057 Pte E.J. AMY, D Company, 29th Bn, 21 December 1918: 'On morning of 20th July 1916 at Fleurbaix in our attack we were cut off, he was wounded by bullet, hit in abdomen. We were lying out on the field until the following morning. I left them and tried to get back. We had bandaged him up, when I left he was unconscious, but in a bad way, he did not leave any message.'
Medals: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal  Sources AA: B2455, ROSS James Hugh
Red Cross file 2360509

http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=261609

LEST WE FORGET

[deeiluka]

I don't seem to be able to get any further with tracing down James Hugh Ross's siblings and any descendants.  I think I might PM a coupe of the rootschatters who frequent the Australian board and have a good grasp of Victorian records.


Dee

[majm]

Hi All, especially Dee,

My OH and I sent out several GR messages and a reply has come back to indicate that at least one GR member with a listing for a James Ross, born Scotland in about 1893 could NOT have been in the Australian Army.  I have replied back and hope that that GR member will re-consider.  Hopefully they will also check the fromelles website, cause I put that in the GR message.  Hope the Victorian Boards get behind this project.

Just Moi.

[majm]

Could be him in Scots Census 1901 perhaps ?
Address seems to be Bennett's Buildings, Govan,  Lanarkshire

James A Ross 36  (1865) and Alice W Ross 30  (1871) with:
Isabella W Ross 9  (1892); James H Ross 7  (1894);  Elizabeth R Ross 4  (1897); Agens T Ross 3 (1898);  Alice W T Ross 6 mo  (1901) and  John Ross 29  1872 (possibly bro of James A, ie uncle to James Hugh Ross)

[majm]

This info may be at odds with other sightings, but ..... 1903 in Victoria (Australia) Electoral Roll there are at 64 Fitzwilliam St Kew:
James Hugh ROSS a tinsmith and Elizabeth May ROSS, home duties.  These electors would have needed to be 21 years or older to be enrolled, so perhaps not connected to this Lad.

[deeiluka]

I think I have tracked down the death of James Alexander Ross in Victoria.

There's the death in PRAN of a Jas Alexr Ross aged 77 in 1942.
Ref = 2643
Parents  = James Ross and Elizabeth Ryan.

James Alexander Ross was listed on the 1901 Scottish Census as born in Elgin c 1864.

IGI has James Alexander Ross born 13 November 1864 in  Elgin, Moray, Scotland  to James Ross and Elizabeth Ryan.
Batch = C111351

Just for interest......James Alexander had a brother named Hugh.


Dee

[majm]

Just a note to say that I have sent GR messages to several of their members listing a James ROSS born about 1894 in Scotland.  I have had one reply so far indicating that the one that member listed had married in 1917, but he had NO middle name.  I await other GR replies from other GR members.