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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 09 May 09 02:34 BST (UK) »
Here is some burial information for the sisters of JAMES HUGH ROSS.

{Alice Wadell Ross, Agnes Thompson Ross, Isabella Waddell Ross}

I've just found a  possible marriage and a death in Victoria which might help......

Alice Waddell Thomson Ross married Edmond Frederick West in 1935
Ref = 2280

Alice Waddell Thomson West aged 69 died in 1970 in Melbourne.
Ref = 3248
Parents = James Alexander Ross and Alice Waddell Thomson.

Agnes Thomson Ross married  Harold Clements in 1939.
Ref = 11069

There's also a death for Isabella Waddell Martyn aged 70 in Pres in 1962.
Ref = 8664
Same parents.
per DEE


Cemetery  - Springvale Botanical Cemetery   
Given Names  - AGNES THOMSON   
Surname -  CLEMENTS   
Funeral Director-   JOHN ALLISON MONKHOUSE-BRIGHTON   
Date of Service -  25/05/1994   
Date of Death -  21/05/1994   
Age-   95       
Burial Type  - CREMATION   
Location Details -  The cremated remains have been collected
Public Grave Y/N   N   


 Springvale Botanical Cemetery   
Given Names -  ALICE WARDELL T   
Surname-   WEST       
Date of Service -  12/02/1970   
 Burial Type-   CREMATION   
Location Details   The cremated remains have been collected
Public Grave Y/N   N 


At Fawkner Memorial Park...  cremated
Name-Isabella W Martyn aged 70
 Located at Garden Of Remembrance 2 Shrub Garden Bed B Shrub 83.     
Service Date 
MARTYN  Isabella W.  7/05/1962 
 
At the same location is her husband
MARTYN  Rupert S  13/10/1972

The funeral director given for Agnes Clements may have information about female descendants??
Sue 
 
   
 
 
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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 09 May 09 07:08 BST (UK) »
Cando has very kindly sent the details of the burial of James Ross's mother.......she's not got much spare time for posting at present.......so thanks, Cando......  :D

Burial record
Springvale Botanical Cemetery     
Given Names    ALICE WADDELL THOMSON     
Surname    ROSS     
Date of Service    18/04/1950     
Burial Type    CREMATION     
Location Details    Grevillea - Rose Tree Garden J3 Bed 4 Rose 53     
Public Grave Y/N    N     
Tenure Date    In perpetuity - For all time


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Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 10 May 09 07:29 BST (UK) »
Bit of a co-incidence, re the ship the Commonwealth, perhaps the Lads noticed it too. 
 
James A Ross of the right age arriving arriving on board the Commonwealth in 1911.
a Jack Rose aged 22 and a tailor sailed on the Lunds Blue Anchor Line ship COMMONWEALTH from London to Sydney on 11 Oct 1909, arriving Sydney 30 Nov 1909.  (Jack Rose may be an alternative name for Jack Joyce, as explained on the thread for Jack Joyce).

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #21 on: Monday 11 May 09 04:24 BST (UK) »
Following on from the Australia Board discussion of James Ross, and the info posted on here re the deaths of his sisters.  these notices are from contemporary Melbourne newspapers.

Re; Agnes Thomson CLEMENTS
Death notice Melbourne Sun-Herald May 23  unfortunately only gives forenames; 'husabnd of  Harold (dec), aunt of Beverley and John, great aunt of Richard and Michael".  No other notices for Agnes.

Re: Alice Thomson WEST.
Death notice, Sun News Pictorial 12 Feb 1970.  Unfortuantely the film is of a bound copy of the Sun and Alice's notice is not entireoly  readable.  She died at Peter McCallum Clinic.  Her address is given as 2 Melosa Ave, East *on, daughter Beverley (Mrs Harvey), mother-in-law of John and agrandmother of Richard and Michael.  Funeral was from St Leonard's Presbyterian Church , New St, Brighton Beach.  Funeral Directors J Monkhouse and Son.
Presumably this is the same 'Beverley' as given in Agnes death notice - so at least we have a surname for her now.   My guess is that the address is 'East Brighton'.

Re Isabella MARTYN
Death notice, Sun News Pictorial May 7 1962
Her address 5 Shakespeare Ave, East Preston.  Died May 5, Wife of Rupert, mother of Les and Allan, mother-in-law of Bon, nana of Ian and Helen.
Funeral from chapel of H J R Lewis, High St, Regent.

Some thoughts;

Looks as though Beverley may be the only direct female descendant of these sisters.

I reckon the funeral directors would be worth trying.  The funeral directors for Agnes and Alice are the same - Monkhouse (Alice) was incorporated with John Allison Monkhouse (Agnes).  They may be able to give some contact for Beverley.

Hope this is of some help!  Judith
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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #22 on: Monday 11 May 09 07:31 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
I'm sure we all feel great appreciation to judb for her research about these women.

As a matter of fact, I did email John Al***on   Mo****use funeral directors at the end of last week asking specifically about Agnes Thompson CLEMENTS. one of these sisters.

No response to date.

I will give it another 24 hours and try again.  there may be issues of privacy in the way of making contact.

Judb has sent me by PM some possible direct links to the possible descendant  mentioned above.

I think I need to get advice now on the next step.  Perhaps Sandra (fedelmar) ??

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #23 on: Monday 11 May 09 08:09 BST (UK) »
I've just caught up with what's been happening......wonderful work, Judb......  :D  :D

And it looks like great team work may have done it again.   :D  :D   :D

I think perhaps Sandra might like to take it to the next step.


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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #24 on: Monday 11 May 09 08:57 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
Sandra has advised me by PM that her colleague, Tim, is authorized to make any descendant contacts,.... so there we go.  ;D

He  knows correct procedures and avenues to do this.

Sandra also says she is really happy about the way things have gone here!!

Can't help feeling hopeful  about the outcome  ;D
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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross
« Reply #25 on: Monday 11 May 09 09:01 BST (UK) »
At this point I feel this thread should be locked, unless we hear from Sandra that more research is needed.


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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Fromelles Missing - James Hugh Ross COMPLETED
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 10:19 BST (UK) »
Tim L has had some good news re descendants of James Ross. I've unlocked the thread so that he can post his message on here.  :D


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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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