HURN and BURT - travellers?

[Arranroots]

This is a shot in the dark!

I read on the Rootschat Travellers board that HURN might be a traveller name - is that likely?

I have an Emma HURN who was born in Gloucestershire Olveston or Alveston, writing not very clear, in 1825 - according to the 1861 census for Trevethin, Monmouthshire, which is the only one I have her on.

She married William (or James) BURT, a coal miner (not on the census - this from marriage cert of Alonzo and birth certs of both boys) and had three children born in Garndiffaith, Trevethin, Monmouthshire- Elizabeth 1849; Alonzo 1852 and Henry 1856.

Marriage not found.

I know that Alonzo later used the surname BROWN(E) interchangably with BURT.  I have no idea why!

After the 1861 census, the BURTs disappear again.  Apart from Alonzo.  I have some idea what happened to Elizabeth but Emma and Henry disappear.

Is Alonzo a traveller name?

I would love to know where Emma came from and where she went!

Thanks for any help you can offer.


Kind regards, Arranroots 

[zingara]

Although  Burton and Hearn are travellers names  your william burt doesnt sound like one wether  emma was is a possiblity but you would have to find out more of her family , on the census they are usualy down as gypsys or tinkers or horse dealers ect

[Arranroots]

Hi and thanks Zingara

Unfortunately I haven't been able to find anything other than the one census and her son's birth cert for Emma - and not for want of trying, lol!

I wasn't so sure about BURT as a traveller name, just the son's name of Alonzo struck me as it stands out from the more conventional names and isn't a non-conformist name either.

Perhaps his mum read a good book just before he was born!

I hope you enjoy Rootschat and thanks again.

Kind regards, Arranroots 

[zingara]

  hope you find some more info mayb someone els on here might be able to help
good luck