The life of a con man part 2

[Trees]

Now Monique do you know any one needing a reseach subject on a psychology course we'd love to know what was driving ETO did he actually believe his own stories was he in a parallel universe?

[jaywit]

Now Monique do you know any one needing a reseach subject on a psychology course we'd love to know what was driving ETO did he actually believe his own stories was he in a parallel universe?

Trees and what about Julian and Josiah, both strangers to the truth at times. Is it in the genes or in the upbringing?
Now someone could get their teeth into that one.

[Eyesee]

Has anyone seen this. Found by Google search

http://www.nram.govt.nz/record.php?id=11707&parent=nramindexbyvolume&volume=Y

Ian C

[Eyesee]

Found this also. May have already been found.

http://www.archive.org/details/empirestatenotab00staff

Open the flip book option, search on the name osbaldeston. There is a photograph of him.

Ian C

[deb usa]

Hi Guy

I have been questioning Annie Pratt's parents ... no offence ....

She was under age when marrying ETO 3 or 4 weeks after meeting him! Did parents have to give their consent when Banns were read? Not sure on how these things worked ...Annie Pratt bc 1844, married ETO 1862 after only knowing him for 3  or 4 weeks 

deb

[Eyesee]

Can't remember if I have seen them here or not but there are a few references to ETO on Google Books if you do a search for his name. Mainly New York things.

Ian C

[Trees]

Thank you Ian yes we have found those didn't he look distinguished apparently even when he was living in a shack made from orange boxes he wore a carnation and looked prosperous. Dread to think how he financed his many projects like  his travel expenses, bringing his siblings to America, buying the land at Lake Titus and the Chasm. How much did Alice know of his life of crime I wonder.
Deb I too am wondering about my 2XGt Grandfather Thomas PRATT
Ann's mother Ann nee THORNE died between 1851 and 1857
I think her youngest daughter was
 June qtr 1851 Pratt    Ellen Solihull    16   564
all the other children were Solihull but there were others in the B'ham area However I can't see an Ann death in the period in Solihull and several in B'ham
Thomas then married a widow Hannah Elizabeth Smith in 1858 so may be Ann rebelled against her step mother
In 1861 her next sister was a live in servant and little Ellen was with a married brother James
In fact its strange in 1861 Ann is with her  father Thomas and  with them are two of her sisters one a widow and one married with her husband and daughter no Hannah where was she? Had Ann nee Thorne died or had she left Thomas??
I'll keep checking
H

[jaywit]

Trees Ann Pratt is still alive in 1861 living in Bordesley Birmingham she is under Anne Pratt ref is RG9/2173/20/36.
She says she is married is a nurse and is down as a visitor.

I put Ann* born Exeter Devon 1806 +/- 2 living Warwickshire to find her.

[Trees]

Oh  I've been trying all sorts of combos well done so is the marriage to Hannah Smith a red herring We did initially think that the Hannah on the 71 census was  Ann Thorne but then I found the marriage of Hannah and jumped to conclusions
On the 71 census there is an Edward Smith in the same House to add strength to the Hannah marriage  oh dear what a mess back to the drawing board. Was the Hannah really Ann with the birth place wrong?
RG10/3130 fo 46 p27
H