The life of a con man part 2

[deb usa]

geezzzzzzzzzzz just lost my post 

will start again

From an article;

Nov 14th 1886 ETO and Mrs Metzger arrested in Montreal. His bail ($1700 ... ) was paid by Edward J Mannix who it seems was security at Lake Titus.

It's rather strange that ETO and JTO cannot be found on the 1920 census as we know they are both still alive ....

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deb

[deb usa]

geezzzzzzzzzzz just lost my post 

will start again

From an article;

Nov 14th 1886 ETO and Mrs Metzger arrested in Montreal. His bail ($1700 ... ) was paid by Edward J Mannix who it seems was security at Lake Titus.
It's rather strange that ETO and JTO cannot be found on the 1920 census as we know they are both still alive ....

searching

deb

oh myyy

the Malone gazette reports that Osbaldeston's cottage at Lake Titus has been deeded to Capt E J Mannix by Mrs Osbaldeston for his loss as bondsman ...I bet Alice was P/Oed 

Well this is not helping me find ETO in 1920

deb

[deb usa]

more info

the year he died he had supposedly celebrated his 85th b-day ...but a few days later he had produced a birth cert proving he as 99 years old! I wonder where he got that cert?!!!!! would that be his baptismal record ...?? did he forge it like his medical docs? he had also said that he had wanted to live past 100 yrs old .... I onder if someone killed him?

ahh it also states only 3 wives! so Louise must have been the 2nd, but how?

eeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkk getting caught up in ETO again ...Help meeeeee 

deb

[mc8]

more info

the year he died he had supposedly celebrated his 85th b-day ...but a few days later he had produced a birth cert proving he as 99 years old! I wonder where he got that cert?!!!!! would that be his baptismal record ...?? did he forge it like his medical docs? he had also said that he had wanted to live past 100 yrs old .... I onder if someone killed him?

ahh it also states only 3 wives! so Louise must have been the 2nd, but how?

eeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkk getting caught up in ETO again ...Help meeeeee 

deb

no-I read the article that he committed suicide having previously sent a letter and a pair of PJs to an undertaker saying how he wanted to be laid out-will try to find it again
Monique

[mc8]

this article shows a picture of hime (apparently he had striking red hair)-and is wearing a big fat medal on his chest-no doubt for some act of outstanding bravery  Binghamton NY Press Grayscale 1929 b - 1186.pdf

this is the article Poughkeepsie NY Daily Eagle 1929 - 0281.pdf which talks about his letter to the undertaker, and also relates stories about how he tutored the Price of Wales, and that his mother's marriage to the earl of Anslow was annulled by the king 

and what was this one all about New York NY Evening Telegram 1905 Jan - Mar Grayscale - 0119.pdf
ETO treated Duke, an elderly tobacco tycoon who ended up marrying a fraudster of ETO's aquaintance in such a state he could remember nothing about it. I wonder if they cooked up something together which went wrong-ETO was a key witness against her  (he said he knew her for 12 years under the names Desplaines, Drummond, Deane, Woodbury, Alice Webb. Interestingly, ETO 'treated' Duke before he was carried out of the house for the marriage. Weeks later, away from ETO's ministrations, he was miraculously improved

Monique

[Arranroots]

As ETO was born in Cheltenham I am wondering if he ever worked in one of the Spa baths.

I'm not up to speed with this thread but can help you with this bit - no spa baths in Cheltenham!!

Just a few places where the rather errr delicious water could be sampled (I survived it but don't recommend it!)

 

[deb usa]

Hi Monique

Nice to meet you Glad I am not searching alone !
ETO seems to contradict himself ...saying he wanted to live passed 100 and yet looking for cheap coffins and telling everyone what he wanted to wear.

Stille looking for ETO in 1920 .... no sign yet although I have found a Charles Wm Turner b 1845 England, clergyman living in Manhattan. ETO's brother Charles was also born in 1845  ...........    folloing all leads LOL

deb

Hi AR ......nice to see you back ...this has become quite a quest! We are still loving the search! hope you are well

[Greensleeves]

I'll tell you what is driving me bonkers with this addiction, is that every thread I follow, trying to locate the lost pieces of the jigsaw, I find Turners living next door....  though not Edwin, Frederick, Josiah etc Turners, but unknown Turners who may or may not  provide missing links....

I have spent this evening checking on Alice Agnes Moore's Ludbrook(e) connection (Alberta used the name Ludbrooke for her paintings) and what do I find - Turners running the Norfolk village pub.

I seriously think that I am in need of therapy...........

[deb usa]