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Offline Dinosaur

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #216 on: Sunday 10 May 09 21:28 BST (UK) »
I'm disappearing off to Germany for the next 5 days so won't be able to check back in until Friday evening.

Some of my mother's ancestors come from the village of Kammerborn bei Uslar, northwest of Gottingen in Lower Saxony. The father of our immigrant ancestor was a cowherd there. Somehow I doubt I'll find anyone as colorful as the Osbaldestons!

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #217 on: Sunday 10 May 09 23:58 BST (UK) »
I doubt any of us have anyone like the Osbaldestons  ;D ;D ;D...although my family did have people who in 1851 were "the Slacks", (dad= Coach builder) and by 1861 were "the Smiths", (dad= hawker) ...we hafe no clue why!

re this from Dinosaur:
"The newspaper article “And So They Were Married,” The Sun (New York), Tuesday, 14 Feb 1888
I’ve searched http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/ in the past but hadn’t come across this gem. "

I cannot find it! What is it about?

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #218 on: Monday 11 May 09 06:08 BST (UK) »
Deb it was Annie Mabel's marriage its one I found on the Fulton web link transcribed and lost grrr can I refind it ??? ???
It said her father gave her the option of giving up her fiance or leaving home...some choice
She went to the house where he lived with his mum and although they had planned to marry in a couple of years they went out that afternoon and tied the knot. ETO threated the law as he reckoned she was under age ..but nothing came of that she was 21 after all and ETO far from squeaky clean was hardly likely to bother the law.
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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #219 on: Monday 11 May 09 06:36 BST (UK) »
I bet Addington jail was a bit different in ETO's day  ;D
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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #220 on: Monday 11 May 09 18:06 BST (UK) »
Here's the page with "And So They Were Married" 

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030272/1888-02-14/ed-1/seq-3/


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Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #221 on: Monday 11 May 09 18:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Susan I've been going over and over all these newspapers trying to find it again :)
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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #222 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 16:03 BST (UK) »
He was baptised (as Edwin Turner) at St Mary's Cheltenham on 30 Dec 1838.

I asked the question, already had the answer in notes I made at the Glos Archives  :-[

1838 Dec. 30th Edwin son of Charles & Mary Ann Turner, Gas Green Chelt'm, Book Binder

GFHS has come back to me with info from the birth registration index taken from the original register, Edwin's mother Mary Ann's maiden name was Tanner.

Where does Tanner come from  :-\

Susan  :)

Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #223 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 16:20 BST (UK) »
I think that was a mistake on behalf of the clerk he probably found it strange that she was apparently Mrs Turner and also nee Turner...though we know there are many cases of situations like this...she was nee Turner daughter of Charles Turner but she used her father's name as the name of her children's father or the truth that they were her step father's children would have caused too much scandal. Their real father was Josiah Osbaldeston who himself lived under the alias Jos. James after the bankruptcy case. Charles Turner was long dead when she used his name in this way.
I am still ploughing through all the data the threads have turned up there is such a mass  and I am such a slow typist  I am looking forward to Dinosaur's return Friday evening but have booked to go away for Sat -Monday evening can't wait for the next episode
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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #224 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 22:54 BST (UK) »
I am looking forward to Dinosaur's return Friday evening ................can't wait for the next episode
Trees

Trees ... me toooo ... I still think of ETO quite often .... ummmm I think I may be a liiiiiiiittttttttlllllle crazy/bonkers  ;D
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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