The life of a con man part 2

[jaywit]

Dee There is a tree on An****** about some Australian Osbaldeston's and yes they are related I think through ETO's grandfather.

[deeiluka]

Thanks Jaywit....so that could explain his original visit to Victoria.......

[toni*]

i havent caught up on the whole thread
sorry if this is duplicated but have you seen this?

http://www.nram.govt.nz/record.php?id=11707&parent=nramindexbyvolume&volume=Y

Description
The diary entries seem to have been made in a notebook: there is a photocopy of the original manuscript with a typed transcript alongside. According to notes made by Noel Siver, his great-granddaughter, the diary notes commence in ca. 1840s, when he was on military service in Malta.

Edwin Osbaldeston used the name Dr. Edwin Turner while he was in New Zealand in 1876, perhaps because he had been in gaol in Adelaide from 1867 until 1873. He was a burglar, petty thief, masseur, ship's surgeon, ventriloquist and lecturer. He began his 1876 stay in New Zealand as resident physician at Waiwera Hot Springs, near Auckland (his occupation when this notebook was written). He came to Christchurch in the same year, where he spent some time in Addington Gaol. He broke out of gaol and went to Melbourne, then back to England as a ship's surgeon.

[toni*]

and he is also mentioned in the 'Empire State Notables'

http://www.archive.org/stream/empirestatenotab00staff/empirestatenotab00staff_djvu.txt

[toni*]

ok yesterday i posted about Squire Osbaldeton
i think now he is
 the famous sportsman George Osbaldeston (1787-1866),

as in the 'Who's who in New York City and State'‎ - Page 1002

it says this

OSBALDESTON, Edwin Turner: Physician and surgeon ; b. Cheltenham, England, Dec.
27. 1842 ; s. Josiah Scudder Osbaldeston (brother of Squire George


does that help ? or not?


also found on Google Books (and apologies if repeating earlier stufffinds)

He swallowed his anger and turned to Judge Tumen with the charge that Dr.
Osbaldeston was the same Edwin Turner who, forty-five years ago, stole a "hoss
and ...

this book also mentions

"Sir", said Dr Edwin Pye Turner Onslow Osbaldeston going on ninety-four,  to Deputy Sheriff S. Foster Black, ninety-one, "Sir, you are an outrageous liar."
the spry old Deputy Sheriff gloomed darkly. ......

&


Deputy Sheriff Black ... here for Binghamton before noon, saying he would extradite the old doctor for trial.
"First", Said Dr Osbaldeston, in a voice that tottered  a bit, "the story is not true. I was never in Binghamton in my life.


The best in the World By John K. Hutchens, George Oppenheimer
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0694/

[deb usa]

Found it
The Bourbon News Paris KY January 24 1905 page 3  an amazing story about an idiot rich man who married a scheming woman who drugged him
ETO was engaged as a nurse to the man ummm
"...a man named “Dr”( the report has put the quote marks) E T Osbaldeston, who was employed as a nurse in the Duke apartments ...he( the nurse)  insisted that a doctor be called...Osbaldesston admits that he was once arrested in Montreal with a woman names Louisa Weiss, who was accused of theft, And that he spent several years in an insane asylum there.."
he then goes on to say he was shot in the head " In August 1892...investigating a suspect dive in New York city... silver plate inserted in his skull to cover the hole made in it by a colored man who shot him while he was thus engaged in another raid."

OK when did he spend time in the Montreal Asylum
Are there any reports about his investigations in 1892?
H

hi Trees

So he gets shot in 1892 in a raid in NY ..gets plate put in head,  ...what on earth is a masseur doing in a raid ?? 

so between 1892 - 1895 there should be a border crossing from NY to canada

ummmmmm .... he says he spent time in an asylum in Canada ...' (1895 arrested in Canada)

timeline;
1893 ETO accused of Child Abuse ...in newspapers
so ETO had to go to Canada sometime after abuse case and before being arrested.

1895 ETO and Louise Weiss arrested Montreal, Canada
...Louise gets put in jail but is having Mascot a year later. How did she get pregnant, if ETO got away....unless she was already pregnant

1896 Mascot Louise Osbaldeston born Lake Titus, NY d/o ETO and Louise


argghhhhhhhh

Hi Toni ... yep we have that info 

[toni*]

Morning / Afternoon Deb

and his death notice in the Arkansas Gazette 1929

available from Arkansas Research, Inc., PO Box 303, Conway, AR 72033, 501/470-1120, www.ArkansasResearch.com

The book (Index of Death Notices Appearing in the Arkansas Gazette, 1929_  by Oscar G. Russell) itself contains a complete list, A to Z, of people who are mentioned in the Arkansas Gazette newspaper as having died in 1929. Some people are listed more than one time because they’re mentioned in more than one issue or on more than one page of the newspaper. Some of these folks never set foot in Arkansas, but if they were reported dead, they’re listed. The book itself gives the deceased’s name, age, town and state or country of residence, newspaper date, page and column.

[jaywit]

Hi Deb

A couple more snippets about Julian from Google Books

Illinois Medical Journal 1906
Change of address from 3248 Rhodes Ave Chicago to Indianapolis Ind.

Annual report of the Visiting Nurse Association of Chicago 1908
Dr Julian Osbaldeston 2238 Indiana Ave.

Don't like that visiting nurse bit was he pushing ETO as a nurse?

[toni*]

do you Osbaldestons connect to the Osbaldestons from 'up north'
earlier i.e. circa 1650's and before