The life of a con man part 2

[jaywit]

Well his first bankruptcy was early on in the life if this act.

 'In 1831 a special court of bankruptcy was established, consisting of six commissioners with four judges as a court of review, and official assignees attached to the court for the purpose of getting in the distributing the bankrupt's assets. Non-traders were originally excluded from the bankruptcy court, and a special court called the "court for relief of insolvent debtors" was instituted for their benefit, in which relief from the liability to imprisonment could be obtained on surrender of their property, but they were not discharged from their debts, subsequently-acquired property remaining liable. Both of these courts were subsequently abolished, non-traders were permitted to obtain the benefit of the bankruptcy laws, including a discharge, and in 1869 the system of official assignees was swept away, and a new court of bankruptcy created.'
So 'late of Scotland Cottage' had he given his property up?  ' Subsequently acquired property remaining liable' could be why he moved away from Cheltenham and changed his name, so that the court couldn't find him and any new property he obtained.
I'm not a legal expert but it's my take on it.

[Trees]

That is very interesting I already have a page on my web site about a chap in debtors prison this will all be useful additional detail and it will be good to have a second subject to discuss there A big thank you for this both
H

[Trees]

At his trial reported 5 Sep 1876 in the Timaru Herald he says his child was in a house in Christchurch surrounded by police So does that mean she was in some sort of welfare care and can we find any records of children in care at that time what did they do with children whose parants were in prison then?Should I ask that on the NZ board? He had apparently been in jail for a month before this How far is Kaiapoi from Christchurch ? he says he had been at the house where Annie Mabel was on the Monday, the trial was Saturday and he was picked up two miles from Kaiapoi would this make sense?
Trees

[avm228]

How far is Kaiapoi from Christchurch ?

Apparently, 17 km:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiapoi

Anna

[Keziahemm]

As far as I can see from the record of insolvent debtors Josiah was only bankrupt once, 1841.  The papers cover 1833-1844.

Agree with Jaywit, he did a runner from Cheltenham and changed his name 

Susan 

[jaywit]

I wonder where this guy fits into the picture?

26 May 1831

John Osbaldeston
Assaulting Jesse Castle at Cheltenham
Rev W Hicks, JP and J H Ollney, JP at Cheltenham.
Fined 5/- and 6/- costs.
Crime committed 19 May 1831

[jaywit]

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Now can I find him between 1831 and 1883?

[deb usa]

Morning all

Just remembered something. In one of the Newspaper reports where ETO had stolen someones coat (NZ or Aus ? ), supposedly his daughter was a witness .... she told the judge that he had had the coat for a while and that he had not stolen it. It went on to say that the judge did not believe her!  So was ETO making her stick up for him?

deb

[jaywit]

Deb we know from the allegations of child cruelty later on that he perhaps wasn't the kindest of fathers and Annie Mabel in a strange country, no mother had little choice but to do what he said or no doubt he would have abandoned her or worse.