The life of a con man part 2

[jaywit]

Trees don't forget the step daughter with Alice in 1881 she fits Annie Mabel

[Trees]

OK jaywit I'll send an E mail off
There is one newspaper report where he admitted being in a mental Asylum but in Canada so you may be on the right trail
I'll try to find the newspaper report
Yes of course the DA card is 1885 well after AM is with Alice ooo are we on to something here
Sorry Arran I think it was you who doubted if Ann was not the riht one after all
H

[krisesjoint]

Hi Trees,

Sorry but you really do need to move on from the destitute asylum. It is not your Ann. Annie's husband Charles had deserted her and gone to Melbourne. The records stated that Frances was an infant (1885) In fact she was born in March 1885 to Charles Pratt and Annie Taylor who married in 1883. At that time she was aged 28 father Robert TAYLOR. It is not your Ann.

Kris 

[deb usa]

Hi everyone

Have been searching for an hour for passenger lists......... nothing on Alice Agnes, Annie and Augusta(Ethel) going back to UK in 1880/1, nothing on Julian Alexander Turner O, either.

will keep looking.

deb with coffee 

[Trees]

Thanks Kriss that really does lay that one out I was just desperate to find she hadn't died
Back to the drawing board
H

[Trees]

latest from NS
Louisa daughter of ETO and Louisa Weiss
Her real name was Mascot Louise Osbaldeston she was born at mascot, Lake Titus 9 Aug 1896 became a prima ballerina she says search for Mascot Osbaldiston here www.footnote.com. for another beauty she had 4 husbands

2 of Mascots daughters are still alive so be careful not to mention their names
Trees

[deb usa]

Hi

I had seen her on a passenger list and thought it a strange name ...

Mascot Osbaldiston
ship ; Adriatic
age;18
DOB Aug 9, 1896
POB Camp Mascot

Depart, Liverpool Oct 14, 1914
arrive NY  Oct 22, 1914
address; ParloraCo ...can't make it out!

will look for more

[deb usa]

1920
New York
Manhattan
65th street
Louie Vesely mar 30 b Bohemia dancer, imm =1910, permanent res.
Mascot wife 22 b NY, father= b England, Mother = b Germany , dancer
Mascot dau 4 b Penn

deb 

[deb usa]

aha 

passenger list
Louise LUCAS 50 grandmother, mar, passport # ****/ by marriage, address 200E 67th st
Mascot Vesely grandchild, 9, b dec 23, 1916, Penn
 Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany 
arrived, NY: 11 Jul 1925

okay ...Mrs Lugas/Lucas was the one in fear of her life from ETO!

eeekkk ...need to get this all staright in my head ...will amend timeline

deb

added  from timeline;

more for 1903;
Aug 15th 1903, Ms Lugas fearing for her life as "Prof." ETO threatens to kill her! Mrs Lugas aka Miss May is supposedly his WIFE! Mrs Lugas (with her daughter) had been housekeeper to the German guy that ETO had killed. (ETO got off the charges pleading insanity) ..this occurs 15 Aug 1903 a week after he has returned from Hamburg! could Miss May/Mrs Frank Lugus be Louise WEiss/Molzger??