The life of a con man part 2

[deb usa]

Morning all

Re Julian Turner Osbaldeston:

Directory of deceased American physicians

Julian T. Osbaldeston
DOB 25 Dec 1859, Birmingham
died; 21 Aug 1921, Chicago, IL
Type Practice: Allopath  
Practice Specialities: Chicago, IL, Aug 17, 1911  
Licenses: IL, 1902  
Practice Dates Places: Chicago, IL, Aug 17, 1911  
Medical School: Michigan College of Medicine and Surgery, Detroit, 1901, (G)  
Education: Birmingham, England, South Africa, United States, common school, Business College, Young Men's Christian Assn  

Cause Of Death: injuries, accident, automobile;

Cook County also has his death reg under Osbaldistone

Julian marries Margaret Close in Canada and then according to IGI an Anna Schwalb


Marriage;
Julian Turner Osbaldeston = Margaret Close on 13 Nov 1885, Carlton, Ontario
30yrs, b Birmingham
Age: 30  , bc 1855
occ; Physician
Father Name: Chas C P S T Osbaldiston
Mother Name: Mary Ann Turner Osbaldiston
Spouse Name: Margaret Close
 35, bc 1850,   Merricksville, Ont
dad=  Dennis Callins , mum = Margaret Watson

IGI extracted;
Julian osbaldeston = Anna K Schwalb
30 APR 1890, Cook co., Illinois


1910 US
Cook Co. , IL
Chicago City
Indiana Ave.
Julia (sic) T Osbaldeston head, 50, mar (1st marriage  ) married 21yrs, b England, parents English, Immigrated 1884, naturalized , occ; physician
Anna S wife, 64 ( ) , first marriage, g Germany, parents German, imm 1888, occ trained nurse

NY City Directory 1890 (see previous thread)
where the whole family is Massage people there is also
Osbaldeston Julian T. massage, 721 Sixth av.  so we had thought he was a son but could be ETO's brother.

still looking for him in Canada and his passenger list/Naturalization

deb

morning deetwin

[jaywit]

Deb Thanks for that.

Does anyone want proof that lying is in the genes?

So Julian is saying he immigrated in 1884, yet we know he married in Canada in 1885 and if I am reading all of that correctly, he attended medical school in Detroit in 1901 yet he was already saying he was a physican when he married Margaret in 1885?

So where was he between his baptism in 1855 and marriage in 1885?
He says educated in Birmingham, so why can't we find him on any census, he was old enough to be at school by 1961.
 I don't know about South Africa, that is one of the few countries that Edwin doesn't claim to have visited. Also I have a feeling, I will check it out that South Africa was all different colonies around the 1860/1880 period.
Onwards and upwards.

[jaywit]

I thought so, the obvious place to enter what is now South Africa would be Cape Town, no Suez Canal then, so the west coast easiest to reach.
 So Cape Colony, 'The Cape Colony subsequently remained in the British Empire until the formation of the Union of South Africa in 1910,' British had been there since late 1700's. ( from Wiki) so to call the country South Africa, was he making things up around the 1911 date when he started practising in Chicago?
I don't know if any information is available about immigration to Cape Colony, another dig around.

[deb usa]

Hi Jay...  

Found him in 1900  age has changed slightly from being born in 1855 , as per his 1st marriage   and it seems as though he might have a new wife ..see her age!

1900
Indiana Ave , Cook Co, IL
 Julian Osabaldeston b Dec 1858, 41, married 11 years (21 crossed out!), Physician,
HANNAH wife 47, b Germany,  Jan 1853, married 11 yrs, occ Doc??? doesn't say doctor looks like Doctress ?  

deb ...looking for more

[jaywit]

Deb he might turnout to have been as big a rogue as his brother

[deb usa]

LOL ....

Can't see JTO on 1920 ..census started on 1 jan ...each enumerator dated their schedules ... so can't find him or Hannah.

BUt Guess who is living in Indiana Ave, Chicago in 1920?? ..................

 

1920
Indiana Ave, Chicago
Frank and Olive Osbaldeston
he is 30 b NY, CORRESPONDENT
Olive is 26, b Wisconsin, STENOGRAPHER

maybe ETO hired his son to do his stories ...LOL

deb 

[deb usa]

By 1930 Frank and Olive are in Vickers Ave, he is President of Dried fruits and worth $12 000 , This is where the brother-in-la is living with them ... John E Twiner

 ... the more I look at the image the more it looks like TURNER ... who's obit mentioned the brother John E Turner when all the other siblings were Osbaldeston? was it Geneva's ?

deb

[jaywit]

Deb Well keep it in the family

Deb BTW I think the 1900 and 1910 census returns for Julian showing his wife as Anna/Hannah are the same wife, I know her age fluctuates but if Julian was filling the  form in well......

Deb it was Geneva's obit I think that mentioned the brother.

[jaywit]

Deb I also think that John E is Edwin, he is the only one we haven't found a marriage for, he was born 1883 and Geneva died 1954 so is there any way of finding a death for him after 1954? I guess though if he continued to use the name Turner it will be very difficult to find him.