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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 17:21 BST (UK) »
I'm going through those papers too I love the way he wasn't evading arrest on yet another jail break but having gone "home" to see his daughter and finding the house surrounded by police he decided to drew them off so he could double back and spend some time with her before giving himself up He didn't hear the police man call to him but climbed int the hedge or shelter!
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« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 19:45 BST (UK) »
Is there a way of searching old Australian papers?
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« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 20:11 BST (UK) »
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 20:29 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thanks, Jorose for the link!

In one of those nespaper reports it states that a man name Osbaldiston stole jewels from the prince. 16 Nove 1867, Adelaide

The next mention is 21 November 1867 , where it states that a Mr ENGLAND OSBALDISTON, "tried to hang himself with his braces this morning. He was discovered in time and placed in a strait-jacket"

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 20:32 BST (UK) »
That man knew every trick in the book, I'm surprised he didn't write the book ;D ;D ;D


This is the prince they refer to.

http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A040127b.htm
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 20:58 BST (UK) »
A person named Osbaldiston, who arrived here lately from Melbourne blah blah was employed as an assistant for the lecturer on mesmorism, known as Dr Carr...got arrested ...blah blah ........... mesmorism.... no wonder people believed him , they were all mesmorized  ;D
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 22:42 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for those very useful links and all the other remarkable research I've had my head in the newspapers most of the day some interesting some amazing items its all slowly building the picture of the maddest man you can imagine
Great so now I think I've got As many newspapers as i can find ooh no I haven't i I've forgotten the UK ones surely Queen Victoria's surgeon got the occasional mention after all he was a noble chap ...er ...wasn't he Will look in case
But what happened to Ann and afterwards what happened to little Annie Mabel while her dad was inspecting the penal facilities of the world? Did we ever find Alice Agnes' death and was there a marriage for Louise Weiss as he claimed in 1890? Is it wort fining a marriage to Mr LUGAS?LUCAS?
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« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 22:57 BST (UK) »
Hi H

I have been struggling all day to find immigration records or anything else on Julian Turner O .... nothing. Ho did they get around...where did the money come from for all this travel. UK to Canada to USA etc.

It's such a pity that the 1890 US census is fragmented. It may have solved some of the questions we have .... :-\

Cannot find a death for Alice Agnes ...unless she went back to the UK to die. Have also looked for the Lugas/lucas peeps and the Vesely's with no luck either .... I swear I am going to dream about them sooner or later ..as it is , if I am in the car or wherever , I am churning the story around in my head!  :-[ ::)

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 10:38 BST (UK) »
I have to report that my searching today at SAGHS turned up absolutely nothing. I managed to book a computer for an hour, and  did as many different searches of the South Australian Police Gazettes as I could.

I searched the years between 1866 and 1876, and I searched by Turner, Osbald*, Edwin only, and just using the term murder in the search engine. Unless he was using yet another name, there was no mention.

Didn't think to search using "Theft" but expect there would have been too many results to wade through anyway.

One point.....there were absolutely no results for the search of "Edwin" until 1870, and no murders before that year either. So I am wondering how much detail was in the earlier Gazettes. (I know that once you find a name and then use the microfiche to look at the actual page, you can get some amazing information from 1880 onwards.......)

There was no murder committed by an Edwin.....just one by an Edward Wilson in 1872.   :-\


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Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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