The life of a con man part 2

[avm228]

Hello Dinosaur and a warm welcome

If one of you has a chance, would you mind looking for James and Mary Ann HUBBARD in the 1871 census in Bristol --possibly on Prince's St in Bedminster. In an article entitled “Had a Life of Adventure,” Detroit Free Press, Sunday, 9 January 1898, her youngest son Julian mentioned that he/they moved to Bristol in 1866.

This looks like James and Mary Ann:

1871 census: RG10/2507/42/24
12 Waterloo Square [just off Princes St], Bedminster

James TURNER Head Mar 46 Cane worker b England Blind
Mary Ann do Wife Do 52 Essex


Anna

[Trees]

A big welcome to the rootschat community Dinosaur you have discovered the best FH site and I hope you will find as we do a lot of fun and friendship along with incredible research
Today I am going right back to the beginning and making sure I have picked every point up
H

[deb usa]

Hi Dinosaur   

Nice to 'meet' you! Your great grandfather has kept us busy for days .... we have had great fun searching for him!

BTW ... do you have them in 1861?

Anna ...that looks good!

deb

[jaywit]

Deb Dinosaur says she found Josiah in Wolverhampton in 1861 ( with the name Joseph), I can't see him can you?

[deb usa]

hi Jay ...

nope , I have looked for him aswell, with no luck! 

If JTO says they went to Bristol in 1866 , where the heck are they in 1861 ??

deb

[jaywit]

 Deb We got James in Birmingham in 1861 with a 'wife' Ann but no sign of Mary Ann and Julian, they must have been around Birmingham somewhere, but perhaps hiding from Josiah?

[deb usa]

Jay

he's in Wolverhampton in 1861 not '71 ooopsss 

1861
Joseph Osbaldeston lodger unm bookseller 71 b Worcester, malvern

So he's 'Unmarried' in 1861 ...so it looks like mary Ann was with James Hubbard in 1861 , but where are the kids ...Julian would only be about 5years old 

deb

[jaywit]

Deb I know, I'm not 100% convinced that the Ann with James is in fact
Mary Ann, I found a match for Francis under James ( he was only 10/11 in 1861) in Worcestershire as a visitor. Perhaps Julian was with a different family somewhere but with what name? and Ann Maria we don't know anything about her wether she was alive or had died.

[jaywit]

Deb Another thought. Julian isn't with James and Mary Ann in 1871, so although he would only be around 15 years of age where was he? ETO was in Australia at that time, did Julian go to South Africa on his own as a teenager? He said he had been there.