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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #18 on: Monday 04 May 09 21:50 BST (UK) »
Edwin's younger brother Francis Turner/James appears to have stayed in the Birmingam area. I have found him on 1871 and 1881 as Franci(e)s Osbaldeston, married to Sarah. On 1871 he is a basket maker and 1881 a beer house keeper. So the whole family are missing on 1861, wonder where they were?



Just checked Francis married Sarah Reeves in 1869 in Birmingham.

IGI 25 Dec 1869 St Thomas Birmingham Francis Osboldiston to Sarah Reeves.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #19 on: Monday 04 May 09 22:05 BST (UK) »
I have possibly found Francis in 1861, but it's a bit odd. He is Francis James age 14 born Birmingham staying with a family called Essex in Worcestershire, they are farmers in a big way they even have a governess for their children.
RG9/2088/28/21


Now didn't Josiah have Worcestershire roots?
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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #20 on: Monday 04 May 09 22:18 BST (UK) »
Well remembered  ;D

Reply 122 page 9 by Trees

I now have found a public tree on A...y which has a birth 18 May 1797 Great Malvern for Joshiah Scudder Osbaldeston I have sent a message to the tree owner to see what else she can tell us .........

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Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #21 on: Monday 04 May 09 22:34 BST (UK) »
Yes I had a reply from the A...Ry person rather short and to the point She had not seen the birth details but had had the information from a reliable source no reply from my second message Shame I feel it was a Christening/baptism not a birth and thought she may have had a bit more and doesn't seem too interested in the sibling of her main line I am afraid I like bushy trees  ;D.
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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #22 on: Monday 04 May 09 22:46 BST (UK) »
I too like bushy trees  ;D  ;D

I looked at the A......y tree no sources given  ???

The Osbaldeston name appears in Tewkesbury/Cheltenham areas, not too far from Great Malvern as the crow flies.

Susan  :)

Added: IGI has an extracted baptism for William Sonder Osbaldeston 7 April 1795 Great Malvern, father Wm. O mother Mary.  (Think this was posted on previous thread  :-\)
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #23 on: Monday 04 May 09 23:33 BST (UK) »
I must do a quick recap but must call it a night again I was up at 6 today I'll try to be more active with this tomorrow
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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 00:05 BST (UK) »
Hi guys


So Sorry ...have been under pressure to get something done by tomorrow ... There is quite a bit on Julian T O.

Edwin was bc 1838 and Julian 1860 ...is it still possible that they are brothers :-\

deb .........under pressure  >:(
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 00:17 BST (UK) »
Just hallucinating here with thoughts flowing ...

I notice throughout all of this that there is reference to basket making, hawkers and journermen in earlier censuses ... having had travellers in my family ...those occupations remind me of travellers ...although the 'posh' names are not customary with Travellers ....

as I said ...just hallucinating  ;D ;D ;D :P
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 00:52 BST (UK) »
I can see where your coming from but where does the name Osbaldeston come from its not an occupational name nor a "son of" is it a place name ston on the end sounds that it could be we have tygeston near here and Laleston Isn't there a site where you can see where the name has prevailed over the deades it may lead us to a clue for example my Dunsbys started in Dunsby and were dyers the village ofDunsby was full of wodes men in the doomsday book
umm one to check on in the morning goodnight Deb hope you met the dead line we met ours with half hour to spare  ;D
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