The life of a con man part 2

[deb usa]

ummmm found this

passenger list

NSW  Assisted
Chas Osbaldiston
arrived; 2 Aug 1831
Vessel Name: Curler  
Origin Location: London, Cape of Good Hope  

then
NSW Unassisted
Charles Osbaldiston
Port of Departure: London, Cape & Hobt Town  
Port of Arrival: Port Jackson, New South Wales  
Voyage Arrival Date: 2 Aug 1831
Vessel Name: Curler  


also remember that ETO stated that he came over to the USA in 1854 on board the ship "ERIN"

well I have found a S Osbaldestone, 28: Mrs O 26 and Miss I or T O 6 on board the ERIN....arrived USA  26 Feb 1880  

[jaywit]

Mmmmmm

Deb That 1880 arrival. We know ETO and Alice are in NY in May 1880 when they marry, we can guess they were together somewhere in Jan/Feb 1880 for Alice to become pregnant.

We also know ETO seemed to have names of ships, places, events etc. in his mind which he changed round at will and embellished. Now 6 year old child? we have heard that one before haven't we.

But why would he use the incorrect initials? Unless he wanted by some other police force we don't know about.

It would tie up but we have no way of proving anything.

[deb usa]

I as thinking the S could stand for Scudder  and the child ...it looks like a T could stand for Turner


I think Alberta, the youngest dau of ETO may have gone to Sydney:

Miss A Osbaldeston
Port of Departure: London 
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales 
Voyage Arrival Date: 26 Oct 1911
Vessel Name: Otway 


The last time I see Alberta is 1910 Manhattan with ETO and Alice ....

Unfortunately the PL does not give a DOB for Miss A Osbaldeston

[Trees]

Gracious why would Alberta go off to Australia she must have had her head filled with the wondrous life squeaky clean Dr daddy had lived there I wonder how much the children knew about their father it looks like Alice did a good job in hiding the truth from them,
That list for the Erin looks very interesting
how did they pay for all their travels they are on passenger lists not crew lists are there any records of ships crew that we can access
(I cant wait to the 16th and our new form of connection we have been off line for long periods again today and it did't start raining until after dinner)
H

[deb usa]

The ERIN is interesting.... especailly as it is mentioned on the passport application for himself and Edwin Julian ..... quite a coincidence that there should be Osbaldestons on an ERIN in 1880 ...

also Mrs O is aged 26 ...which adds up to Alice Agnes' age ... b 1854.


this is all assumption , of course .... actually it may add up as ETO and Alice married in May 1880.....

But would he be able to get away ith his daughter being 6 when Annie Mabel was actually 16 errr 14 ...Unless he gave the details and lied about his age and hers ....

[Gaie]

Miss A Osbaldeston was listed with others on Page 16 as going on to Brisbane on the Otway in 1911.

The ships' passenger lists also list crew members, so if a certain person was working as a ship's doctor, say, then they should show up........ 

Kind regards
Gaie

[Trees]

Thanks Gaie now is there a ships Dr/surgeon anywhere rejoicing in the name of Turner or Osbaldeston or possibly Pye on the high seas say between 1840 and 1910
By the way did we ever bury Alice?  I wonder how much she knew of his "secret" life do you think she was aware of Louis W  or of the camp at Lake Titus? Did she buy into the half brother theory? Was she too scared of him to say anything
H

[Trees]

Found it
The Bourbon News Paris KY January 24 1905 page 3  an amazing story about an idiot rich man who married a scheming woman who drugged him
ETO was engaged as a nurse to the man ummm
"...a man named “Dr”( the report has put the quote marks) E T Osbaldeston, who was employed as a nurse in the Duke apartments ...he( the nurse)  insisted that a doctor be called...Osbaldesston admits that he was once arrested in Montreal with a woman names Louisa Weiss, who was accused of theft, And that he spent several years in an insane asylum there.."
he then goes on to say he was shot in the head " In August 1892...investigating a suspect dive in New York city... silver plate inserted in his skull to cover the hole made in it by a colored man who shot him while he was thus engaged in another raid."

OK when did he spend time in the Montreal Asylum
Are there any reports about his investigations in 1892?
H

[deeiluka]

There are other Osbaldestons in Australia in the 1800s......in Victoria at least.

Don't know if they would be connected.


Dee