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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #117 on: Thursday 07 May 09 14:00 BST (UK) »
Sportsman in a Landscape on Google Books mentions Osbaldeston

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #118 on: Thursday 07 May 09 14:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Toni ...thanks for that ...not sure who he is

Hi Jay ... poor kids of ETO !!


Do we know when Annie Mabel Turner Osbaldeston Knowles died? I cannot find her after the 1900 US census. Geezzz I am getting frustrated  :-X :-\ ;D

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #119 on: Thursday 07 May 09 14:37 BST (UK) »
Deb remind me where the case with poor AM being a witness was please the case I refered to continues on as it was the one about a month later when he once more broke out If we know AM was a witness we should find out who took charge of the poor scap
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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #120 on: Thursday 07 May 09 14:39 BST (UK) »
I think this family was sent to frustrate us, Deb!

Another tangent, then... Do we know who Kate Osbaldeston was?  She sailed New York-Liverpool in 1891 (aged 18, spinster, English) and back to New York in 1892 (aged 19, spinster, citizen of England, final destination Chicago, Illinois).

NS has put a note on one of her passenger lists on Ancestry saying she's a member of a family she's researching.

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #121 on: Thursday 07 May 09 15:10 BST (UK) »
If you search for Edwin Turner there are some interesting things on
 http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

Particularly in 1876 there was a reference an Edwin Turner, Hydropathic Practitioner, who seems to have been at Waiwera.  Then later that same year he turns up as Edwin Turner alias Osbaldiston, aka Dr. Turner, who had lectured in Christchurch. He had completed his term of imprisonment for an earlier offence but then been immediately re-arrested within a week for stealing a coat.  He then escaped from Addington Gaol in August 1876, was recaptured and charged in Sep 1876 (described as Dr Edwin Turner/Edwin J. Osbaldiston).


Hi Trees ... I was searching through the link Jorose gave us ..... I am not sure which report it as but it def. stated that the judgedid not believe the daughter. So she had to have been with ETO in order to go to the trial.

Hi Anna ... I have seen Kate around but have not seen that she was related.


re Geneva TO ; she married FB Miller

on the 1910 which I had found ealier they were guests at a hotel ... I have just noticed that it was his 2nd marriage ...he was 52 and she was 25 !!!!  ::)

found this aswell, not sure if she is ours as date/age is out ;

MI in Carlyle
located between Rutherglan and Wahguiyah
In Loving Memory of John KNOWLES 29 12 1938 age 76
In Loving Memory of ANNIE MABEL KNOWLES 24 9 1935 age 58

I think I had found her on one census where she was with husband john F although she married a Frederick Elliot ..I could find her with a Fred husband.

Johns death age adds up to the one I found with Mabel A Knowles

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #122 on: Thursday 07 May 09 15:34 BST (UK) »
Deb if the Knowles pair didn't die until the 1930's then they should be on the 1930 census ( somewhere, maybe ;D)
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #123 on: Thursday 07 May 09 15:40 BST (UK) »
Kate Osbaldeston is the daughter of Franci(e)s Osboldeston/Turner/James so Edwin's niece.
I have found her on 1881
RG11/2961/32/2

If she went to Chicago I bet she was staying with  her uncle Julian Turner/Osbaldeston
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #124 on: Thursday 07 May 09 15:57 BST (UK) »
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I think I have found a book with ETO's photo in it


Book; Empire State Notables
Hartwell Stafford
published Oct 10, 1914
page 447, Osbaldeston, Dr. Edwin Turner

quote from the foreword:
"This book embraces within its covers the largest and
most comprehensive collection of portraits ever published
in one single volume in the world. The subjects have been chosen in the very broadest sense. They are those, who wherever born or reared, in
business or connections, in social life or in politics, are
parts of the fabric of the great Empire State. "

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The life of a con man part 2
« Reply #125 on: Thursday 07 May 09 16:02 BST (UK) »
if you google the book you can flip through it !

http://www.archive.org/stream/empirestatenot00staf
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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