Joe Wade

[emmsthheight]

Hi again

Interesting.  I went for the Cockermouth registration 1911 which had an Annie on, but this looks good, too, so I wonder if the two 1911 entries are related?

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi Free bmd has:

Hi Sorry Echneps, just reread and you had what was up there.   I was to busy looking at the census you'd put up and didn't go back to the rest!!

Best wishes

Emms

Edited.

[Postlethwaite]

Hello,

Thanks for your help but I wish i had never started this now, its all so confusing.

[Ecneps]

Hello Postlethwaite,

We're not trying to confuse you, I'm sure it must be difficult for you when you don't have a lot of the earlier information to go on, but you may have to do a bit more digging for yourself before we can help further. 

You say you are looking for his birth and death, so why not start with them, can you say where have you already looked? (just to save others looking in the same places)

Or you could begin with the marriage certificate that looks likely for him (Emms gave the reference earlier) and also if you have a look for him in the 1911 census, spending a few credits on that may well be worthwhile giving you a bit more information about him.

What about looking at trade directories for the Keswick/Braithwaite areas to see if he is listed as hotel owner or fishmonger?

Kind regards,
Barbara 

[GeoffE]

Looking at the 1914 Cumberland and Westmorland Directory at http://www.historicaldirectories.org

there was a
Joseph WADE, fishmonger at Sands, Appleby

The Sands is a road in Appleby http://tinyurl.com/crx2kz

Looking now at FreeBMD, there was a 1912 marriage to an Annie MOORCROFT
Marriages Jun 1912 
MOORCROFT    Annie    (Wade)    E.Ward    10b   1357   
WADE    Joseph    (Moorcroft)    E.Ward    10b   1357

and two daughters
Births Jun 1913 
WADE    Doris    (Moorcroft)    E.Ward    10b   1470   
Births Sep 1914   
WADE    Vera    (Moorcroft)    E.Ward    10b   1485

[bobgraham]

Geoff, are you sure we were not twins separated at birth? I've just spent the last hour on historicals and can confirm that the Derwent Lodge Hotel did not exist in 1914. There is now a Derwent Lodge hotel in portinscale but in 1914 it was the Derwentwater hotel  run by Tom Clarke Stanley and the Derwent Lodge seems to have been a vicarage or a seminary as it was occupied by lots of reverends (none named Joe Wade). Portinscale is not now well known as it was byepassed in the 50's/60's but before that it was a nightmare. Every bit of road transport from west dumbria (lorries, buses, coaches, cars , vans but especially the lorries to the burgeoning chemical industry in Whitehaven) had to go through it. And right outside a hotel/pub there was a more than right angle bend that most large vehicles and even smaller vehicues with poor drivers (and there were a lot of them in the 50's- my father included) had to to do 3or 4 point turns to get round. I'm not saying this was the derwentlodge but it could well have been. Then there was a wartime type bridge  (Bailey?) over the river (Derwent/Greta) with a huge slope and automatic traffic lights. Father never managed it in less than 3 attempts and most other drivers even the professionals frequently took more. I hated that bridge.
bob

[GeoffE]

Hi Bob
I remember the Bailey bridge at Portinscale and the railway along the edge of Bass Lake (now the eastbound carriageway of the A66).  There was a BR Camping Coach in the siding at Bassenthwaite station.

[GeoffE]

1891 census
Long Marton, Appleby
Joseph MOORCROFT 50 Railway Station Master, Warwicks Coundon
Emma 43 Yorks Ilkley
William 14 Coal Selling
Annie 11
Arthur 6m
Kids born Long Marton.

[emmsthheight]

Hi

I remember the railway, too.  We went on there quite a bit.  Shame it's gone - and the next section from Keswick to Penrith!  I guess Joe's guests may well have used it!

Best wishes

Emms