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robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« on: Wednesday 29 April 09 23:53 BST (UK) »
hi robert clark emigrated in 1845 to usa with his dad robert b1796 and mum margaret b1799 .i have him in  1850 census kirkland oneida new york .after that i have followed a few leads but they seem to be different roberts .please note that james clark my gggrandad b1836 moved back to blyth northumberland wed elizabeth kell in 1861 .he was a master mariner .
 i followed a robert who wed a bertha schulz in michigan but he was born in 1835 .can you find the right one .

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Re: robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 April 09 10:44 BST (UK) »
For reference:
1850, Kirkland
Robert (age 55) occupation Miller, Margaret (50), Jennett (25), Nancy (22), Jame (18), James (14), George (12), Robert (9)
All born Scotland

1860, Kirkland
Robert Clark, age 67, Grist Mill tender; Nancy age 30; George, age 22, Factory Employee; Maggie, age 17, Factory Employee
All born Scotland except Maggie, born England
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 April 09 11:14 BST (UK) »
Looking at the 1900 census, I tried searches for
Robert Clark, born c1841 in Scotland, immigrated 1845 (+/- 5 years)
Robert, born c1841 in Scotland, immigrated 1845 (+/- 5 years)
and do not see him.
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Sorry, I'm not finding anything helpful.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 April 09 11:45 BST (UK) »
i have a possible  1870 census robert age 28 detroit ward 7 wayne michigan wife helene age 25 (harriet later ) .in 1880 census robert is only 36 wife harriet 34 detroit wayne michigan .in 1900 census robert 54 and harriett 51  .they had 9 children.this robert died before the 1910 census .
 have tried robert and  bertha 1880 census monroe michigan but his dad was john .

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Re: robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 April 09 18:44 BST (UK) »
hi
ive just found marriage for this robert clark and harriet hilling in trenton wayne michigan date 23/4/1869 .can you get parent info from certificate .also harriet died 20/5/1929 dad robert hilling mum ann smith

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Re: robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 April 09 19:09 BST (UK) »
There are Michigan marriages from that time frame here:  http://labs.familysearch.org/  I don't see a certificate for Robert & Harriet, but there appears to be one for daughter Mable.

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Re: robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 May 09 02:30 BST (UK) »
The Robert in Wayne, Michigan seems also to be there in 1860 with some other Clarks from Scotland, altho this isn't a game-ender:

1860  >  MICHIGAN  >  WAYNE  >  1-WD DETROIT
Series: M653  Roll: 565  Page: 41

Possibly a better bet is this Robert in 1860 who is residing with the Navin family of Yonkers, NY:

1860  >  NEW YORK  >  WESTCHESTER  >  YONKERS
Series: M653  Roll: 880  Page: 469   
 
CLARK  ROBT  18  M  W  SCOT  NY  WESTCHESTER  YONKERS  1860

Still not great since Yonkers is abt 240 miles from Oneida.

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Re: robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 May 09 20:22 BST (UK) »
hi nick
 i agree that robert was in yonkers in 1860 farming .i looked at 8 possibles in 1900 census .the only one that stands out is whiteford ,monroe,michigan  wife bertha then caroline .robert was born in march 1841 in dumfriesshire according to 1841 scotland census .
however the lds say that this robert was born in dumbarton.can this be checked .

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Re: robert clark b abt 1841 dumfies birth not recorded
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 May 09 14:44 BST (UK) »
hi again
well i think i have thr right robert clark.
1870 in joliet,will,illinois age 27
1880 in joliet ,will , robert clarke age 39,wife mary age29,robert age 4 ,agnes age 2.
1900 census robert p clark b1840 joliet ,will,illinois  wife sadie .
marriage robert clark to mary ann green july 13 1875 in jackson
he died before the 1920 census in illinois .
can i check parents from marriage or death certificate

bill