BLOOMFIELD Family

[Yi Win]

Hi Pindy,

I will have a look through some info for you - I take it you dont have easy access to the census records?

Will let you know if I find anything.

Yi

[Yi Win]

Hi,

this is her birth record..

Births December quarter 1883
 Ethel Maud Bloomfield         Plomesgate    4a   825

You can apply for certificate using the page and volume number - this should provide Harriets maiden name which would enable you to search her side (and confirm that the Harriet Sampson below is indeed the mum!

This is likely to be the marriage but I cant guarantee this for sure as it is only going by location of Ethel's birth..

Marriages March quarter 1883   
BLOOMFIELD    James        Plomesgate    4a   957   
Sampson    Harriett         Plomesgate    4a   957

If you looked up this record you would get the fathers names of both paretns IF these are the parents of Ethel that it.

You can do this by going into the general records office site on line and ordering a copy of the cert - I think they are about £9 each now.

this would give you a lead to follow on the fathers.

Unfortunately i cant find any trace of the family in the 1891 census -this could be for a varying selection of reasons such as - mis spelling of surnames, re-marrying and having a different surname, not living with parents or all or some going by nicknames and not putting birth names on census's.

If you can shed any more light I can try and look further for you.

Yi

[Yi Win]

hi,

Here's an interesting thought but only a thought mind you.

There is a Harriet Sampson in the 1881 census in Benhall - just one!

She is married to a george Sampson and has a family with him.

George died in 1881 aged 48 - which would tie in with his age in the census of being 47 and dying in registered district plomesgate at aged 48...

Deaths Dec 1881 Sampson    George    48    Plomesgate    4a   435

the 1881 family are
George Sampson     47, Harriet Sampson    37
Charles Sampson    14, Georgianna Sampson 12
Alfred Sampson    10, George Sampson    8
Harry Sampson    6, Rachel Sampson    4
Fred Sampson    2, Robert Sampson

so Harriet Sampson could have been widowed and remarried James Bloomfield.

You would now need to look up her marriage to George to get her maiden name to follow this line. Her cert to James would say widowed if it was indeed the same lady.

The address was 22 Mill Lane and she was originally born in Kelsale,
the older children and George were born in saxmundham and the last child Benhall - George was a bricklayer, so was his eldest son.


Anyway based on this I looked up where the Sampson family were in 1891


I can say that 2 of the Sampson kids were NOT with their parents in 1891 - both Harry and Robert were living with a possible older married sister called Eliza and at age 10 and 16 this may indicate a re-marriage or death of parents.

Harry is a stone mason - the address is Mill Lane. Harry b saxmundham and robert Benhall so this ties in with the kids from Harriet and George on the previous census.

there is a family of bloomfields in the same street but no james is mentioned.

Charles Sampson is a lodger in another household so it appears the Sampson family is split up at this point


A thought!

Yi

[Yi Win]

Hi,

There is a marriage in Blything (district covering Kelsale where harriet was born) as follows...

Marriages Dec 1859   
Harriet Ife            Blything    4a   1493   
George Sampson         Blything    4a   1493

this may or may not be your Harriet.

Yi

[Yi Win]

hi,

Here are the Sampsons in 1871

note the elder sister called eliza which ties in with Harry and Robert living with her in the later census.

George Sampson     37, Harriett Sampson 28
Eliza Sampson    10, Ann Sampson 9
Mary Sampson 7, Charles Sampson 5
Georgeanna Sampson 3, Alfred Sampson 5 Months

they are living in Saxmundham at this time.

NOTE all births are on the free birth marrige and death index under plomegate district and the birth is registered as spelling Georgiana.

As i cant find James Bloomfield under either Blomfield or Bloomfield i would asume maybe he moved in from elsewhere and married the widowed harriet - I have no actual proof of this though - you would need to get the certificates mentioned above to prove this is indeed your Harriet.

If it is then you can go back and trce the 'Ife' family as one lead.

Yi

[Yi Win]

an example of how family names change from registered and census given...

in the marriage register of Dec 1884  she is as follows
CADY    James        Plomesgate    4a   1579
SAMPSON    Hannah Eliza         Plomesgate    4a   1579   

she is obviously known as Eliza in the census records

her birth for info is recorded as Anna Eliza and in Kelsale (Blything District) and not Saxmundham.

[Yi Win]

is this your grandmother....

Marriages Sep 1903
Bloomfield    Ethel Maude        Islington   
who married either  Bert Henry Priest or Joseph Schindler   ?

There is definately a Harriet Ife born 1843/4 Blything.

This may be Ethel in the 1901 census

it says servant living Islington and birth as Fanningham - which on the hand written doc could be Framlingham - near Benhall/Saxmundham - the birth district plomesgate includes Framlingham but only you would know where your grandmother was actually born and if this is her.

If it is her we know that the  family moved to Islington and therefore it can be hard to find families in London on the earlier census's.

She was working for the Collins family.

Just another thought only

[pindy]

Hi Yi,
a great big thank you for all your help on my behalf. I think you must have the right leads as it all falls into place. Ethel Maud(e) was my brickwall. I received her birth certificate this week after years of wondering if she was the correct Ethel. The 1911 census said she was born in Benhall so I was then able to order her birth certificate. She was born in Benhall and her mother was Harriet previously Sampson formerly Ife!
Ethel was married to Bertie Priest in Islington in 1903. Then moved to Southend.
From the Familysearch.org I found a death of Harriet in 1889 aged 40 in Benhall.
A marriage of James Bloomfield (born 1853)in Benhall in1883?!! Remarried?!! Is this my Great grandfather? So lots of leads to follow.
 
Thanks again
Pindy

[Yi Win]

hi,

Yippee we've got a lead for you!

Not sure about the Bloomfield side but you've a positive lead to follow through on the Ife side.

the best bet is to get James's marriage cert to find out who his father is - that should give you a lead on which Bloomfield family he is connected with but he may have moved in to benhall as he doesnt appear to be on the census's for benhall prior to his marriage but then again that could just be due to spellings etc.

Keep posting up dates on here - someone maybe able to link you in on the Bloomfield side.

Yi