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looking for Patrick Carroll
« on: Sunday 26 April 09 22:11 BST (UK) »
Hi all, hoping that some more experienced RC might be able to help me.
I started researching my fathers side of the family.I have done very well but I have got stuck trying to find my gr gr gr gr grandfather Patrick Carroll in the census for 1861, 1871 and 1881 :(.
I  think that he came from Ireland as his son James was born there as it says so on his census' and Patrick had other sons born in Glasgow in 1856 and  circa 1860.
I have his wife Jane's death cert for 1870 and Patricks for 1882 but why can I not find him in any of the census'?
I want at least one to confirm that he came from Ireland. Any one got any ideas  or can tell me something that I might have missed?
I would appreciate any help or am I flogging a dead horse at this stage!

Thanks Annette
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Bradley-Inishowen,Donegal
Limerick-Derry/Inishowen,Donegal
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Re: looking for Patrick Carroll
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 April 09 22:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Annette

I have Carrolls (from somewhere? in Ireland) who were mainly Rutherglen based - coal miners.

Patrick Carroll - tho may not be same one as yours is my gtx3 grandpa. (married to Briget McGurk). His son James being my gt gt who also had a son called Patrick and erm 12 more kids.

Would love to compare notes if yours sound in any way connected.

Ann :)
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Re: looking for Patrick Carroll
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 April 09 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Ann sorry my Patrick was married to Jane Flannigan and settled in Glasgow around Gorbals and then Shettleston.

Sorry I cant help you! Good luck in your search
Annette
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Bradley-Inishowen,Donegal
Limerick-Derry/Inishowen,Donegal
Brown  - Inishowen , Donegal
cConway-Inishowen,Donegal
Harvey-Glasgow/Campsie,Scotland
McGill-Glasgow,Scotland
Carroll-Ireland/Glasgow
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Re: looking for Patrick Carroll
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 April 09 00:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Annette

Thanks and best wishes to you to in your Carroll research too. If I find anything interesting I'll let you know because this family is one I need to do a lot more on. I think I saw the Irish link and thought Oh well that's that then - have pads of Irish elsewhere in my tree.

I do know another chatter's other half (caroclay) also is researching Carrolls in Lanarkshire so might be worth contacting her. Like ours Irish connection but you never know in this game!

Your guys in Shettleston aren't that far away from where mine were in Rutherglen/Cambuslang so who knows!

Happy searching!

Ann
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-

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Re: looking for Patrick Carroll
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 April 09 13:43 BST (UK) »
I have a John Carroll married 1858 in Newtonards to Agnes Jane Thomson   ( daughter of Robert Thomson and Agnes Campbell). Family subsequently moved to Dalry in Ayrshire .Known children names James( married an Anne Stewart), Margaret, Mary and Ellen.
John Carroll died in Kilwinning, Ayrshire in 1903.
Sorry if I amj causing more confusion.

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Re: looking for Patrick Carroll
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 April 09 21:52 BST (UK) »
I have a Patrick Carroll b 21st Feb 1867  Rutherglen/Cambuslang
Parents were
Thomas Carroll Rosscommon Ireland and Elisabeth Wilson County Down Ireland
Patricks Siblings were
Peter Carroll 23Dec 1827 Carluke
Henry Caroll 03 May 1829 Carluke
Ann Carroll   06Dec 1860 Hamilton
William Carroll 19TH Jan 1865 Cambuslang
Elisabeth Carroll 20th Jan 1865 Cambuslang
Dunsmuir Dunsmore Hart Findlay Ralston Naismith
Mitchell Montgomery Frame Liddle
Ireland
Carroll Gallacher Wilson Forrester

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Re: looking for Patrick Carroll
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 April 09 22:53 BST (UK) »
tam thanks for that info but unfortunately that is not him. :(
He was married when he moved to Glasgow and his wife's name was Jane also from Ireland.His eldest son James was born in Ireland and his other sons Patrick born 1857 in Glasgow  and John was born circa 1860 in Glasgow also.
It is driving me mad trying to find Patrick and Jane on the 1861 or 1871 census!

Annette
Doherty-Inishowen,Donegal/Glasgow,Scotland
Bradley-Inishowen,Donegal
Limerick-Derry/Inishowen,Donegal
Brown  - Inishowen , Donegal
cConway-Inishowen,Donegal
Harvey-Glasgow/Campsie,Scotland
McGill-Glasgow,Scotland
Carroll-Ireland/Glasgow
McGruer-Cullen,Banff/Glasgow

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Re: looking for Patrick Carroll
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 April 09 23:49 BST (UK) »
Possible 1861 census on SP for John with 2nd person Pat*

1861 CARLE JOHN Male aged 2 at HIGH CHURCH GLASGOW/LANARK

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Re: looking for Patrick Carroll
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 00:18 BST (UK) »
From the census index it looks like the family consists of

Patrick Carle aged 42 born Ireland

Jane Carle aged 42 born Ireland

James 17 born Ireland

Elizabeth 15 born Ireland

Owen 10 born Glasgow

Ellen 7 born Glasgow

Patrick 5 born Glasgow

John 2 born Glasgow
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