1861 census please, BARNARD

[francesr]

Dear Valda,
This is amazing! I am thrilled to have all this because finally I can make some connections. Now I know more about the Rev. EB, son of the Eton EB, it all falls into place. I couldn't find anything helpful on him before.
It does seem that the agent general EB may be a son. But the Wills seem to be the way to go.
Plainly this branch of the Barnard family is not the one of John George B and his son James, but they may be related in the Eton EB generation. The son George William who died at Cambridge, is also a name that has cropped up. A George William B also emigrated to Tasmania but so far I have found no connection between him and JGB and James.
I did get some further info from the Stationer's Co. which you suggested earlier, but nothing on JGB's apprenticeship, though he was free in London. Maybe he did his apprenticeship elsewhere?
You have worked so hard on my behalf, I really appreciate it.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
Francesr

[francesr]

Hullo,
I have another Barnard-related query please.
I have a Bible entry for Ann Jane Barnard b. 8 May 1807; died 24 Feb. 1809 "buried in the vault" of St Sepulchre (without Newgate) City of London.
I have been trying to access the church's web site without luck at: www.st-sepulchre.org.uk. Is there any way of finding out if the vault is still in situ, and if so, whether it has been transcribed?. I would like to know if there are other relatives buried in it. Or perhaps it has been moved? Is it possible to visit?
Thanks for your help.
francesr

[Valda]

Hi

Certainly the churchyard has gone

http://www.burial.magic-nation.co.uk/bgnorthfaringdonwithout.htm

The vault may have been cleared. The church would obviously know.

Regards

Valda

[francesr]

Hi Valda,
Apologies for not thanking you earlier for this!
I only just found it!
Regards,
Francesr

[pickwick]

Could anyone tell me whether the Edward Barnard here is the same Edward Barnard  as the one who was among the founders of the famous Houghton Angling Club? This Barnard died 13th December 1861, and I strongly suspect that it is the same person - I have just seen the surname Beadon mentioned here, and another founder of the Club was called Beadon.

If it is indeed the same Edward Barnard, I would like to find out as much about him as possible, and would be grateful for any information anyone may have. I am currently writing a book about Charles Dickens's Pickwick Papers, and the Houghton Angling Club was one of the inspirations for Pickwick. As I do not visit this website very often, I would prefer to be contacted by my email address: *

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[Valda]

Hi


Edward Barnard of Cannon Row Westminster and Belgrave Cottgae Lambeth died 31st December 1861. His will was probated 31st January 1862 at the Principal Registry.


Regards

Valda

[francesr]

Dear Valda and Pickwick,
I am so sorry to be so late in responding to your posts, when I was thrilled to know someone else out there actually knew who Edward Barnard was! Thank you both for the new info.
Dear Pickwick, I hope you will respond to this and we can carry on via the 'personal column'. I do think an investigation of EB's will would be v. helpful, especially as I am not in England - I'm amazed he had time to go angling; he had such a busy life.
Dear Valda (and other readers), I thought you might like to know that I have finally worked out why James Barnard was not in the 1861 census. His wife and 4 children went to England mid-1860 and were there a year before he joined them, probably around Sept. 1861. They all went to the Great Exhibition of 1862 and then 'came home'.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
Francesr

[pickwick]

Many thanks for that posting. As I am new to this site, I did not know that posting email addresses was not allowed and that new members must make at least three posts before using the PM system. As this is my second post, I still cannot use it yet! I must therefore apologise for not replying sooner - as I didn't receive an email, I simply thought there was no response.

Anyway, please say a little more about the Edward Barnard you are talking about. If he is indeed the same as the person I am researching, then he is a significant figure in the evolution of Dickens's novel The Pickwick Papers. In my notes, taken from material published by the angling club, Edward Barnard died suddenly on 13th December 1861. If that is correct, does that sound like your Edward Barnard?

[pickwick]

I have just seen the post about his death date. It sounds like it could be the same person, with the "1" and "3" transposed in the date of death - an easy mistake to make