Grace AITKEN, nee Tennant, Edinburgh

[Danchaslyn]

 

Mamakaz

This is brilliant..........    

And it's amazing how one clue can jog memory................we have cousins, from way back from Durham, England, some now I know of in N.Yorkshire, from this family, and I always thought they were from the American cousin side of the family, but perhaps not??!!   

So, if this is our Archibald, I also remember Mamakaz, you mentioning before the possibility of Christina or Christian White being an Aitken?   

And look who you turned up here...........Archibald and Christina!   

Do you know what job he was doing?  The Durham and N. Yorkshire cousins, were bankers, just like Robert Aitken and John Ellis Aitken in India, and  Richard, but Richard still 'lost'?

Just brill, well done....   

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 

[Little Nell]

the marriage was proclaimed in two parishes (which?),

The IGI, available to search free here:

http://www.familysearch.org/

provides the answer.  Marriage records in Scotland were often just the record of the proclamations of the intent to marry in the home parish of the bride and the groom.  So the fact that there are two records in different parish indicates that the couple were resident in different parishes at the time of their marriage.

Veitch is not overly rare as a name - there are over 1200 people with the surname recorded on the 1881 census in Scotland.

Archibald is in Edinburgh in 1881, married to a Christina, with a 1 year old daughter.  He is listed as a grocer's porter living in the household of James Veitch, a cooper, and his wife, at 10 South College Street. (ref: GROS 685/4 ED62 p 10)

William and his wife are living at 21 Upper Grove Place in Edinburgh (ref GROS 685/1 ED 74 p29).

If you view the death certificate of Janet Aitken nee Bain from 1857 (available on ScotlandsPeople: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk ), it will give the cause of death, together with her parents' names.  The site is pay per view but you do at least get to see the information on the certificate for a relatively small sum.

Nell

[Danchaslyn]

 

Hello Little Nell

What a comprehensive posting, thank you so much.  Firstly, need to explain, when I can I will attempt to buy Janet Bain's death cert, but where I live, I can only get dial-up internet, which is incredibly, painfully slow, and almost impossible to do downloads etc.   

Yes, I thought it possible that two marriage proclamations would indicate bride and groom living in two different parishes, so I thank you for that to.   

Thank you for telling me where William and Archibald are living in Edinburgh, separately, in 1881, and as Archibald is living in a Veitch household  (amazing how that surname keeps popping up!), he looks poised to take off to Durham, as Mamakaz has discovered.

What a lot of Aitkens, all over the place...........!!   

This tree is slowly unravelling.......

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 

[mamakaz]

yep, its deffo archi then, i sent you all the info pls documents in email linnea, x

1901 England Census Archibald and Cristina aitkins kids...

Robert Aitken 16 ,Christina Aitken 14,Archibald Aitken 13, William Aitken 11 
Mary Aitken 10, John Aitken 8, Grace Aitken 6, Helen Aitken 4, Violet Aitken 1 
Lily Aitken 11 Mo,

Elizabeth Bertram 21 /  daughter
Norman Bertram 2 / grandson
Christian Bertram 1 / grandson
Alexander Jack 25 / boarder
 
 
cant find the family in the 1911 england census, i wonder if they went back to scotland?

[Danchaslyn]

 

Hello Mamakaz

My goodness, but Archibald and Christina decided it was cheaper by the dozen!!   

AND,  all the usual family names, just to help confuse us all!!   

How on earth are we going to discover which of all these children is the parent of the cousins??!!!!!!!!

I'll check emails in a min, but in the meanwhile, again, thank you very, very much........   

Cheers

Danchaslyn

xx

[Danchaslyn]

 

Mamakaz

I don't know if they went back to Scotland?   and, of course, no 1911 Census for us there to look at! 

Maybe they went to USA???!!!!  Somehow or other the American cousins, obviously have to have come from someone in the UK?!

But, would anyone emigrate with  SO many children and grandchildren in tow?   

xx

[mamakaz]

ive just found them, looks like archi must have died or left coz there is only...

christina as head,
archibald/son 23yrs blast furnace, william 21yrs/ son blast furnace,
mary 20yrs/ daughter laundry maid, john 18yrs/son blast furnace,
helen 14yrs/daughter, violet 12yrs/daughter, lily 10yrs/daughter,
marjory 5yrs/daugh, alexandr jack  boarder
   
 

[Danchaslyn]

Mamakaz

I'm gettin to tired to concentrate....................BUT, amazing, please check out your posting of 17.01 to-day and you will see the Jack ladies, with Archibald as a young apprentice grocer....................and, mostly through Archibald's adult life and as head of a household, he has, wait for it,  Alexander  JACK  AS A BOARDER!!!     

Also, I've seen the name Isabella somewhere in our Aitkens before,........can't concentrate enough now to try to link up?     

And, which town are they in with Christina now as head of household on her own please?
What on earth happened to Arch?   

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 

[mamakaz]

lol, all the same names keep popping up,

the address was...

13 Chapel Road Jarrow,  County Durham,  south sheilds,

me too, im soooo sleepy, but we found out alot today, thanks everyone,
night all, xxxx