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SEFTON /FINLAY FAMILY CO. CORK. Help reqd. plse.
« on: Wednesday 22 April 09 23:48 BST (UK) »
Looking for details on the following family please:

William SEFTON who married Mary FINLAY (may originally been from Belfast) in Tullylish Church of Ireland, Parish of Tullyshire, Civil District of Banbridge in 1866 Co. Down.

Their children born Warringston, Co. Cork:
Valentine born 1866
Jane born 17 Mar 1868
Sarah born 1870 Ireland/England?

They came to New Zealand in 1874 where I believe another daughter Ester was born onboard the boat, 15 July 1874.

Thank you.
Tiffaney NZ

Moderator's Note: Waringston is in Co. Down not Cork so this post moved from Co. Cork board and merged with Co.Down thread.

edited 24/04/09 at 06:26:19 by Tiffaney
Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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SEFTON FAMILY. Help reqd. plse.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 23:57 BST (UK) »


William SEFTON married Mary FINLAY sometime in 1866 in the Tullylish? Church of Ireland, Parish of Tullyshire, Civil District Banbridge, Co. Down.

Sorry don't know Wm & Mary's birthdates.

Would love to find out about William Sefton's parents & his siblings.

Would also to find Mary Finlay's parents & siblings.

Three of their children were born Warringston, Co. Cork.
Valentine b: 1866
Jane b: 17 Mar 1868
Sarah b: Cork/England? (Lancashire).

Would greatly appreciate help on the above.

Thank you,
Tiffaney
Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: SEFTON FAMILY. Help reqd. plse.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 April 09 01:02 BST (UK) »
I found the following on the pay website emeraldancestors.com

Date of Marriage   23 Feb 1866
Groom Name   william SEFTON
Bride Name   mary FINLAY
Church   Tullylish Church of Ireland
Parish   Tullylish
Civil District   Banbridge
County   Down

Date of Birth   17 Mar 1868
Name   Jane SEFTON
Gender   F
Fathers Name   William SEFTON
Mothers Forenames   Mary
Mothers Maiden Name   FINLAY
Civil District    Lurgan
Sub District   Waringstown
County   Down

From the free database search on ancestryireland.com William and Mary’s parents appear to be Valentine and Joseph respectively.  You can order a transcript of the marriage certificate details from this site for £4.

http://www.ancestryireland.com/database.php?filename=db_QUIS

Surname   Firstname   Year   Fathers Firstname   county
SEFTON   WILLIAM   1866   VALENTINE   Down
FINLAY   MARY   1866   JOSEPH   Down


Moving to the LDS Pilot Site for the Irish GRO birth indexes you can find references to order certificates for Valantine and Sarah

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347

Valentine Sefton, Birth, Lurgan District, 1867, Vol 1, Page 771
Sarah Sefton, , Birth, Lurgan District, 1869, Vol 16, Page 750

This is the information you require to order certificates from the GRO in Belfast for £6 each (but don’t say you got the information from the LDS website – it only causes problems)

http://www.groni.gov.uk/index/order_certificates.htm

If you only want basic details of the birth entry for Valentine go to the LDS IGI at
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

VALENTINE SEFTON Male
Birth: 19 DEC 1866  Waringstown, Down, Ireland
Parents: WILLIAM SEFTON  MARY FINLAY

[Nothing found for Sarah again]

I had a look on the sites mentioned for marriages for Joseph Finlay or Valentine Sefton senior, but no likely matches came up.  Civil registration only began in 1845, so church records would be your best bet. 

There seem to be a lot of Seftons in the Banbridge/Lurgan area (including 4 Valentines with deaths registered in the period 1864 to 1900) so best to look for church records in that area.

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Re: SEFTON FAMILY. Help reqd. plse.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 April 09 08:03 BST (UK) »
These Seftons mentioned here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/S/Se.htm

IGI lists Valentine Sefton born 19 Dec.1866 Waringstown district
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Re: SEFTON FAMILY. Help reqd. plse.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 April 09 10:41 BST (UK) »

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Re: SEFTON FAMILY. Help reqd. plse.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 April 09 11:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Otto- it would have saved me from searching if I'd known the information was already found.
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Re: SEFTON /FINLAY FAMILY CO. CORK. Help reqd. plse.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 April 09 23:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for your time taken in all your lookups akanex 2.  Extremely generous of you & much appreciated.  Also the extra tips & urls you have kindly been thoughtful enough to enclude.
Fantastic,
regards,
Tiff :D :) 
Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: SEFTON /FINLAY FAMILY CO. CORK. Help reqd. plse.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 April 09 23:14 BST (UK) »
Hello aghadowey & Otto......

Thank you both too for your time & urls.  Not too up in the play with Irish Research but through your helpfulness am learning more.

Also makes a huge difference posting in the correct County....thank you for relocating my post.

regards,
Tiff
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Am not receiving emails on new replies to my posts..have checked all out..appears ok.
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Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: SEFTON /FINLAY FAMILY CO. CORK. Help reqd. plse.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 April 09 03:43 BST (UK) »
tiffany these are my ancestors :D and i am curently researching them...have lots of info on them...william was my husbands great great grandfather and mary was his great great grandmother...i can tell you their dates of birth/deaths, immiration details,children and their marriages and children in NZ even where some are buried etc...have pictures of things too like their son henrys memorial who was killed in ww1 and places they lived in ireland etc...where are you situated and how are you related??i still have a few blanks to fill.... i just found out today that williams father was valentine Snr Sefton and he had a brother called Valentine jnr and a sister called esther :o funnily enough william went on to name his kids after them too...william and marys children were Valentine 1867(b)warringston countydown ireland, Jane1868(b)warringston countydown ireland, sarah 1870(b)possibly in england??she died in NZ aged 14 in 1883, esther zealandia 15/07/1874(b) onboard the boat onroute to NZ,William john 1877(b)new zealand,Henry(our family war hero)1879(b)newzealand and robert 1881(b)new zealand he died 1903 aged 21 in NZ....mary died not long after robert was born and william remarried to a lady named mabel blanche hill in 1888 nz...they had 2 children mabel isabella 1889(b)and william frederick 1892(b)....we come from williams son Valentine... not 100% sure on the others but i do have marriages and some children births etc.....hope this helps and possibly you can fill a few blanks for me???