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Lansdown
« on: Thursday 23 April 09 18:42 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to find any information for John Lansdown.
Born around 1834, Westminster.  Died 1899.
Married Catherine Mahan 1854 and Sarah Brown 1871.

I think His first wife (Catherine) may have died in child birth. 
She died Sept 1/4 1869, age 35 yrs, Lambeth.
There is a birth entry for Elizabeth Martha Lansdown Sept 1/4 1869, Lambeth.
Obviously with out a certificate I can't be sure.
I've been trying to find Elizabeth on the 1871 census without success.

Her Siblings;
Catherine Lansdown b.1858, Westminster
Mary Lansdown b.1861, Westminster
Susan Lansdown b.1863, Westminster
Are at 54 Brandon Street, Newington, Lambeth with their widowed father.
Elizabeth is not with the family.

Neither is her eldest sister;
Margaret Lansdown b.1856, Westminster.



The first child of John Lansdown with his second wife (Sarah Brown) was;
Martha Louisa Lansdown b.1872, Camberwell

I have recently had contact from a researcher, who had heard from his mother, that John Lansdown was the result of an upstairs-downstairs liason.
I heard through my family there could be a connection with Lord Lansdown (Marquise?) but no evidence to back this up obviously. 
Any ideas how we could find out what really happened to start these family stories?
With thanks
Tracy

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Re: Lansdown
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 April 09 18:46 BST (UK) »


Hello Tracey   :)

There is a John Lansdown on the 1851 census, born 1834 Westminster, living with father Francis and mother Margaret in Kensington.  Father is a cordwainer.

Do you have that record ?
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Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
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Re: Lansdown
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 April 09 18:49 BST (UK) »
I've been trying to find her, or her siblings, on the 1871 census without success.
John and children Catherine, Mary and Susan are at St Mary Newington RG10/623 126 40

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Re: Lansdown
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 April 09 19:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much for your help. 
I think I've just found Elizabeth Martha on the death register.  (Name spelt without the Z!)
Died Dec 1/4 1869, so that solves that mystery.
Tracy


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Re: Lansdown
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 April 09 19:23 BST (UK) »
Hi.
I have John Lansdown b. Westminster, age 17yrs, on 1851 census  living with his mother (Margaret) and father James, who is a cordwainer.  Are you sure it's Francis?  I haven't looked at the original record.
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Re: Lansdown
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 April 09 20:18 BST (UK) »


Hi Tracey

Well -  I wouldn't like to have to bet on it  :-\

It is a poor image, and if the father is James his name doesn't look like that of the eldest son, nor does the first letter look like the J in John  :-\
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Lansdown
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 October 10 21:36 BST (UK) »
I am also researching John Lansdown b.1833/34 Westminster, as I am a decendant of his son Frederick James. But I am getting nowhere with his birth. Have you had any luck and can you tell me more of this rumour ??? Thanks

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Re: Lansdown
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 October 10 16:09 BST (UK) »
I am the mother referred to in the original post. My son has been helping me to research the Lansdown family history. I am a granddaughter of Florence Elizabeth, sister of Frederick James. We have discovered quite a lot about John Lansdown but have yet to find any definite record of his birth or baptism, though we have found a possibility. I would be pleased to make contact with you.

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Re: Lansdown
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 October 10 16:50 BST (UK) »
Would love to know more. I found  the following-
James Lansdown b 18 May 1794 Westminster
                            m 1813 or 1817 Westminster to Margaret Mathews
                            d 1860 Westminster
also

James Lansdown b?
                            m 1793 Westminster  to Sarah Ann Pinchon
Maybe they are John's father and grandfather. All very frustrating. I have more info on Sarah Elizabeth Brown, if you want. Family rumor has it that she did not know of John's previous marriage and children. Frederick James was my great-grandfather, through his only child, my maternal grandmother. We live 2 miles from Bowood House, the Lansdown estate in Wiltshire. Like to think it is our ancestral home! My e-mail is * Thank you.


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