completed Clara Charlton/Mills

[harley08]

I am searching for any information regarding my g-g-g grandmother Clara Charlton/Mills who married James Edward Mills in Christchurch NZ in March 1864. I am having trouble finding out where she was born and if her and James ever came out to Australia with their son John Leonard Mills. Any information would be greatly appreciated as she is the missing piece of our family puzzle

[Lucy2]

Hi Harley08

Welcome to RootsChat.   

Am presuming that you already have the death certificate for Clara ... and that it doesn't give you the names of her parents either ?

It is of course unlikely that she was born in New Zealand  (the earliest recorded "CHARLTON" birth is in 1859).

From a quick search of passenger lists into New Zealand, I'm afraid that I couldn't see anything for a CHARLTON family nor for Clara, arriving prior to 1864.   

Regarding whether Clara, James Edward and son John Leonard, ever "came out to Australia", you would need to post a query on the Australia board, for this.

John Leonard appears to have been born in NZ in 1881 and there are 2 further children with parents James Edward and Clara listed on the online birth index.
1880 - Maria Louise MILLS  ... and ... 1883 - Frederick Powley MILLS.   (There a several more births with parents named as just "James and Clara" who may also be connected ?)
You can view the index here  >>>

http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/

Lu

[harley08]

thank you for your reply. Clara has been very elusive to trace, I have recently obtained her marriage certificate and that doesn't show her parents or place of birth. I have John leonard Mills birth certificate which shows her place of birth but it is very hard to read. I am not sure if she died in Australia or New Zealand as I can't find a registration of death in either country.  Place of birth looks something like Aoud O.L.C, town is unreadable.

[Thamesite2017]

Hi Harley
Are you able to scan, photo and put bits of the cert online, sometimes other eyes can make out info, did it say time in NZ?
Sometimes from MArriage cert or Intention to Marry rego, you can see how long they were in country? where they married in a church or residence?
any witnesses, all things that may help lead us to answer

Do you have where James died?

1893 they appear stil in CHCH from electoral roll
Surname   MILLS Given Name   James
Residential Address   Conference St. Occupation Tailor
Surname   MILLS Given Name   Clara
Residential Address   17 Conference St. Occupation   Domestic duties

earlier children, one is
Ernest charles born 1865 1865/4748 Mills  Ernest Charles  (BMD site)
This info from NZSG index CD as a member has donated the birth cert. So if you are a member of NZSG you can get cert from NZSG. So presumably there would be other children in interim period till JOhn Leonard is born.

Bye
Althea
   
   

[newbe_nz]

Hi there,

if she was married in Christchurch some one may be able to check the Church card index at Christchurch Central Library before I get a chance as not sure when I am going there next.

Just a suggestion as it will have names of witnesses etc and if they were full age
Newbe

[ennael]

there is a death in N.S.W , Australia for a Frederick Powley MILLS, registered at Bowral, Father James Edward, Mother Clara.
www.bdm.nsw.gov.au
search historical Indexes.

Leanne

[harley08]

thanks everyone for your replies. Unfortunately their marriage certificate only states their ages and occupations. They were married 6 march 1864 in the Wesleyan Chapel in Christchurch. James was previously married to Margaret Atkinson who died a couple of years after they were married

I didn't know about Ernest, I can now include him in the family tree.

Frederick Powley was James and Clara's son and brother to my great-great grandfather John Leonard.

I will try and scan John leonards birth certificate to see if someone else can read it, hopefully they will have better eyes than me

[Lucy2]

Hi Harley     

Possibly another son of Clara and James Edward MILLS ??

From NZ Birth Index (online)

1868 - Albert Charlton MILLS (parents names, not shown)

and - from NSW (online) BDM

DEATH

1931 - MILLS - Albert C.
Parents - James and Clara
Reg'd.  at Liverpool NSW            ??

Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi again Harley

What is the age of Clara, on

*  Marriage cert

*  Birth cert. for her son john Leonard    ??

Lu