completed Clara Charlton/Mills

[harley08]

Clara's age on her marriage was 19 in 1864

Her age at the birth of John Leonard was 37

John Leonards death certificate has parents listed as James Edward and Frances Clair? I don't know if the informant who was my great-aunt Marjorie has got this wrong

[Lucy2]

Hi Harley

Hmmm  ... so born circa 1844-45  ??

I wonder if this is her ??

FREE BMD (UK)

BIRTHS - JUNE - 1845

CHARLTON - Frances Clara

Reg'd at Holborn (boundary of London and Middlesex)

 

Lu

[Eyesee]

1851
St Paul Covent Garden, Westminster
John CARTMAN, head mar 26, Stationers envelope maker, born Middx, Marylebone
Frances M CARTMAN, wife mar 30, born Middx, St Pancras
John CARTMAN, son 2, born Middx, St Martins
Frances C CHARLTON, niece 5, Scholar, born Middx, St Andrews Holborn
HO107 1511 15 23

No sign of that one in 1861. No sign of a death or marriage either.

John CARTMAN married Frances Mary HICKMAN in 1848

There is a marriage for a James CHARLTON in Sep qtr 1843 where one of the brides is a Clara HICKMAN, West London, which includes St Andrews Holborn. A good chance of being Frances Clara's parents. The IGI has a Sophia CHARLTON  was born 1847 daughter of James and Clara as well.

In 1851 I think that Clara CHARLTON is a married nurse aged 28 in house of John DAWSON, Albermarle St, St George Hanover Square. Her birthplace is St Andrews Holborn - HO107 1476 65 37. Can't find James though.

Ian C

[Eyesee]

Frances Mary HICKMAN possibly the one baptised 8 Aug 1817, Old Church St Pancras, parents Charles and Elizabeth - from IGI.

1841
Red Lion St, St Andrews Holborn
Chas HICKMAN, 70, Warehouseman
Mrs HICKMAN, 50
Clara HICKMAN, 18
All born in county
HO107 670 7 St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars) 1 13 18

Ian C

[harley08]

unfortunately I am having trouble getting my scanner to work I can only put down what Clara's place of birth looks like on john leonards birth certificate.   


Qiwlie(c)o, Aoud O.l.C

if anyone can make any sense out of this let me know and I will try and have another go at getting the scanner back on track tomorrow

[Lucy2]

Hi Harley

Is THIS "your" Clara  ??

NSW DEATH INDEX

3655 / 1923   

MILLS - Frances C.

Father:  (- Charlton)        Mother:    Clara


Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Harley

Is THIS "your" Clara  ??       

NSW DEATH INDEX

3655 / 1923  

MILLS - Frances C.

Father:  (- Charlton)        Mother:    Clara

Reg'd. at Ryde


Lu

[harley08]

I have been wondering about this one. I think I will apply for this certificate. the name Frances keeps popping up

[Lucy2]

Hi

Yes, I think this one looks most promising !   

And you of course, have that clue - "Frances Clair" on John Leonard's death certificate.

I'm not sure if you are aware that you can order a transcript of (NSW) BDM records ?    It's much better value than paying full price for a certificate, and you can also have it emailed to you in just a matter of days.   For details, see >>

http://www.transcriptions.com.au/pages/transerv.php

http://home.iprimus.com.au/turtle/


Lu